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Thanks, Obama.

We already have socialized medicine. Anyone who's actually paid a medical bill knows that they are paying for two (or more). We get that. The point is that under a single payer system, you're not going to be able to pay for everyone with a shrinking minority paying the bill. There is no Health Care Bunny Fairy who's going to just wish the pot big enough to pay for all. What happens when the people paying for the system are getting denied care in favor of people who aren't paying for anything? Answer: They're going to vote with their feet and hire people to help them arrange their affairs in a way that keeps them from having to pay for something they're not getting sufficient return on. Now what happens when nobody's willing to pay? The village wine will eventually run with clear water. It always works this way when there's no incentive to contribute. Human nature always wins.

The return on the investment for the wealthy is that the poor are provided with health care.

As a hardworking, educated businessman with an acumen for economics, you understand ROI right? You understand the tremendous return that American businesses would reap from such an investment, right?

EDIT: I really don't understand this: The point is that under a single payer system, you're not going to be able to pay for everyone with a shrinking minority paying the bill. There is no Health Care Bunny Fairy who's going to just wish the pot big enough to pay for all.

are you referring to the demographic bulge of old people on Medicare, or are you saying that the Medicaid rolls will just continue to grow and grow outpacing the tax revenue?
 
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Where on earth is the pooped her pants one from?

Bake, I don't know how folks don't get that a healthy workforce would be more productive.
 
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