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The New Socialists

What did she get wrong? What did she say that was a fantasy vs something you don’t agree with?

Seems like you just don’t like the branding. Your post is like saying “Once someone becomes a Deacon, they rid themselves of being a Demon.”
 
Here, as so often elsewhere, she has no idea of what she is talking about. She's peddling failed fantasies.

Democratic Socialism is an oxymoron. When people become democratic, they rid themselves of socialism.

Um what
 
I don't really agree with her answer that you can be a democratic socialist and a capitalist.
 
Pay no attention to nazi sailor. There is nothing anti-democratic about socialism.
 
I don't really agree with her answer that you can be a democratic socialist and a capitalist.

Which she acknowledges in her answer.
 
Pay no attention to nazi sailor. There is nothing anti-democratic about socialism.

The People's Kommissar for the Elimination of Bovine Flatulence by 2031 has spoken, and spoken like someone who would ignore the testimonies of Holocaust survivors in a discussion of National Socialism.
 
What did she get wrong? What did she say that was a fantasy vs something you don’t agree with?

Seems like you just don’t like the branding. Your post is like saying “Once someone becomes a Deacon, they rid themselves of being a Demon.”

Democratic Socialism is a fantasy, for one.
 
Has nothing to do with branding. When people become democratic they get rid of socialism.

So, which is it? She wants to have socialism be compatible with capitalism and not compatible with capitalism.
 
That’s your disagreement, not an actual fantasy.
 
Of course I disagree with her socialist fantasy, especially because of its long record of mass-murdering failure. Ignore the history of socialism at your peril.

Why can't one disagree with a socialist fantasy. Indeed, everyone should.
 
Disagreeing with something doesn’t make it a fantasy.
 
Of course I disagree with her socialist fantasy, especially because of its long record of mass-murdering failure. Ignore the history of socialism at your peril.

Why can't one disagree with a socialist fantasy. Indeed, everyone should.

Lol do you even hear yourself, Clark?
 
Lol do you even hear yourself, Clark?

Indeed. So, are right-wingers saying that socialism = communism, or what? There seems to be a great deal of throwing about words and labels that really aren't the same thing. Kind of like how many right-wingers have labeled Democrats as socialists (and since they're socialists, they also must be communists!), and that's been going on for decades, not just recently.
 
Indeed. So, are right-wingers saying that socialism = communism, or what? There seems to be a great deal of throwing about words and labels that really aren't the same thing. Kind of like how many right-wingers have labeled Democrats as socialists (and since they're socialists, they also must be communists!), and that's been going on for decades, not just recently.

Fortunately yours is a very,very minority position. Socialism is Communism
 
Fortunately yours is a very,very minority position. Socialism is Communism

You know words have meanings right? And even though sometimes different words can mean the same things, those two words do not.
 
I am sorry to have to tell you that you are wrong. Academic ideologues engaged in tireless efforts at hair-splitting be damned. :)
 
I am sorry to have to tell you that you are wrong. Academic ideologues engaged in tireless efforts at hair-splitting be damned. :)

I mean other than the enormous difference of who controls means of production.

But the distinction isn’t relevant because, and I’ll say it super loud for the people in the back: WE DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A PURE SOCIALIST COUNTRY, WE PRETTY MUCH JUST WANT HEALTHCARE AND A BETTER SOCIAL SAFETY NET AND TO REDUCE RAMPANT INCOME INEQUALITY
 
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