the official new supreme court thread - Very political

[ImTheCaptain]

there are no atheists in HR foxhholes

 

[PhDeac]

Yup; and that's the problem. The slippery slope that this ruling creates. If you read the case, the Owner was and is not refusing any Group her Services. She only insisted she shouldn't be forced to create web designs on her web site that challenge her religious beliefs. This is not a store Owner banning service to any Group, just controlling her advertising. Not something I would have done nor endorse but in itself, not beyond the scope of reason. But it does open as noted, a slippery slope.

It’s not hard to create a website without advertising that you did it.

 

[avalon]

Gorsuch is creating a real niche for himself, writing Supreme Court opinions based on entirely made up scenarios.

 

[BeachBumDeac]

Yup; and that's the problem. The slippery slope that this ruling creates. If you read the case, the Owner was and is not refusing any Group her Services. She only insisted she shouldn't be forced to create web designs on her web site that challenge her religious beliefs.

Creating web designs is her service. She is refusing a group that service

 

[bym051d]

I hope business start posting "no gays allowed" signs, so I know where not to go.

 

[Liquid Karma]

Creating web designs is her service. She is refusing a group that service

I think what he is saying is that in practice she hadn't actually done it yet. She wanted to reserve the right to do so.

 

[Wakeforest22890]

Creating web designs is her service. She is refusing a group that service

Creating web designs [potentially in the future on the sole basis that she says she will do so - for the reason that she wanted to bring this lawsuit as a conservative activist] is her [potential future] service.

 

[WFFaithful]

Yes. There’s an article a page or two ago where they looked into a “request” the web developer had received from an alleged same sex couple for a website and it looked like it was all made up for the purposes of this case.

Rulings based on made up situations appears to be a trend

 

[Wakeforest22890]

The procedural history on standing only provides a little insight into how this is still a case that got ruled on by the merits. The 10th Circuit held that she had standing because there was a "credible threat" based on previous enforcement actions by Colorado that she would face such an action if a same sex couple sought to enlist her services. I mean look at how many hypotheticals alone that description contains.

Forget the "credible threat" legal analysis to determine whether or not pre-enforcement actions should provide standing exist. She doesn't currently create fucking wedding websites. How "credible" a threat can there be to a business that doesn't fucking exist

 

[TownieDeac]

Oh good the Dems are texting me

 

[dartsndeacs]

Is the ruling basically that forgiveness would need to come from congress via the legislative process?

I mean you wouldn’t think the president could just forgive trillions in debt on his own.

 

[Gooner]

The two student loan decisions, first on standing, second on the legality of the program, are two of the worst examples of this Court's extreme overreach into being the GOP's political hammer. There is no legal justification for even allowing this case's merits to be heard, let alone ruling in favor of the states on the merits. Absurd.

 

[Liquid Karma]

I mean you wouldn’t think the president could just forgive trillions in debt on his own.

Technically it was the Sec of Edu based on statutory authority granted under the HEROES act.

 

[bym051d]

I thought conservative judges loved to throw out cases for lack of standing?

 

[Wakeforest22890]

I mean you wouldn’t think the president could just forgive trillions in debt on his own.

Technically there's granted statutory authority under which they acted

 

[birdman]

I mean you wouldn’t think the president could just forgive trillions in debt on his own.

"trillions"

 

[Gooner]

I thought conservative judges loved to throw out cases for lack of standing?

Not when doing so would deprive them of acting as the legislative dictators they desperately crave to be

 

[TownieDeac]

 

[06deacon]

Oh good the Dems are texting me

Townie, it’s Doug Emhoff. The Supreme Court just did a thing. Send us $15 to FIGHT BACK

 

[BarcaDeac]

Time for some of these lifetime appointees to come to the end of their terms