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Ukraine : The ongoing battle over energy

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Surprised there is not a thread on the Ukrainian situation.

Easily the most important issue facing the world...and we are entranced by the disappearance of a plane full of people. The lost souls on that craft stand as a symbol for events beginning to unfold in the Caspian. A ship of fools. It begins slowly...most say "it can't happen now,there is too much at stake..."

The signal failed. Communication failed. Humans failed. The picture of that aircraft sailing into oblivion haunts the unconscious and fuels the fascination...

I'll try and remember... W.B. Yeats:

"Turning and turning
the widening gyre
The Falcon can no longer
hear the falconer
Things fall apart
The centre cannot hold
mere anarchy is loosed
upon the world and the blood dimmed tides
are everywhere
Everywhere the ceremony of innocence
is drowned
as the best lack all conviction
while the worst are full of
passionate intensity"
 
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Lectro said:
Surprised there is not a thread on the Ukrainian situation.

Easily the most important issue facing the world...and we are entranced by the disappearance of a plane full of people. The lost souls on that craft stand as a symbol for events beginning to unfold in the Caspian. A ship of fools. It begins slowly...most say "it can't happen now,there is too much at stake..."

The signal failed. Communication failed. Humans failed. The picture of that aircraft sailing into oblivion haunts the unconscious and fuels the fascination...

I'll try and remember... W.B. Yeats:

"Turning and turning
the widening gyre
The Falcon can no longer
hear the falconer
Things fall apart
The centre cannot hold
mere anarchy is loosed
upon the world and the blood dimmed tides
are everywhere
Everywhere the ceremony of innocence
is drowned
as the best lack all conviction
while the worst are full of
passionate intensity"
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Read: I'll find a poetry site and copypasta it here.
 
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TWDeac said:
Read: I'll find a poetry site and copypasta it here.
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Good call. I took a look at it. I carved it here and there but by no means butchered it.

Now you can return to the previous channel and rejoin Mr Roarke and Tatoo as you continue searching for "Z Plane, Z Plane!"
 
a truly amazing OP; Ukraine - Energy - Missing 777 and Yeats all rolled into one

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Lectro said:
Surprised there is not a thread on the Ukrainian situation.

Easily the most important issue facing the world...and we are entranced by the disappearance of a plane full of people. The lost souls on that craft stand as a symbol for events beginning to unfold in the Caspian. A ship of fools. It begins slowly...most say "it can't happen now,there is too much at stake..."

The signal failed. Communication failed. Humans failed. The picture of that aircraft sailing into oblivion haunts the unconscious and fuels the fascination...

I'll try and remember... W.B. Yeats:

"Turning and turning
the widening gyre
The Falcon can no longer
hear the falconer
Things fall apart
The centre cannot hold
mere anarchy is loosed
upon the world and the blood dimmed tides
are everywhere
Everywhere the ceremony of innocence
is drowned
as the best lack all conviction
while the worst are full of
passionate intensity"
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Crimea is in the Black Sea Lectro
 
61raddeac said:
Crimea is in the Black Sea Lectro
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I realize this is too much for you to grasp in your first class but the whole fight boils down to the future control of the Caspian Sea Basin.

In 1999's farewell speech to Halliburton then CEO, Dick Cheney,in what amounted to a state department mission statement said "the Caspian reserves represent 4 trillion dollars of extractable gas and oil from now till 2040...we must go where the oil is..."

Nice to see to you hypocritical left wing smartasses falling in with "Big Oil"...the fight is basically for the rights to build oil and gas pipelines. Love to to see it when you support it if it's in somebody else's backyard...hahaha. You look no different than Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson complaining about infrastructure coming through his property.
 
ol' lec's got it all figured out, boys. you should give uncle sam a call and help them out:

US Dept of State
Main Switchboard:
202-647-4000
 
ImTheCaptain said:
ol' lec's got it all figured out, boys. you should give uncle sam a call and help them out:

US Dept of State
Main Switchboard:
202-647-4000
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Look, everybody understands that you are the captain of absolutely fucking nothing.

As always, thanks for your very limited contributions.
 
From link provided above:

“The past five years have demonstrated that the U.S. president does not have any ethical dimension for his foreign policy - Syria is one example - let alone the question of intervening to uphold the principle of non-aggression against a sovereign state.”
—Marwan Kabalan, political analyst at the Doha Institute.

The recent U.S.-backed coup that toppled the former government in Ukraine has been couched in the noble rhetoric of democracy, humanitarian intervention and self-determination, but a closer examination reveals an ugly underside of realpolitik whose motive is energy dominance. Like Syria, Ukraine has one of the key gas pipeline corridors coveted by the U.S. and its NATO allies that is still under the influence of a so-called R&D (resistant and defiant) country such as Russia.
 
Lectro said:
Look, everybody understands that you are the captain of absolutely fucking nothing.

As always, thanks for your very limited contributions.
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just a refresher from elementary school:

zero times zero is still zero
 
lec's that red haired dude in the very back (top of his head). he's in every episode but is utterly meaningless
 
From the Senate report:

The LNG for NATO Act was another key bill introduced in December 2012 by now-retired U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar (R-Ind.). That legislation’s introduction came alongside the release of a key Senate Foreign Relations Committee report titled, Energy and Security from the Caspian to Europe.

First discussed at a press event hosted by the influential Atlantic Council – then headed by current Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel – the premise of the report was simple: many NATO member states rely on Russia for gas imports.

And Russia is the main power player alongside China overseeing the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which effectively operates as NATO’s foil. Thus, the report concludes, NATO must find a way to wean itself off of Russian gas.

“This strategic U.S. initiative would advance U.S. interests by alleviating Russian gas-fueled pressure against NATO allies, bolstering bilateral relations in the Caspian Sea region, and further isolating Iran,” Lugar wrote in introducing the report.
 
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