SkyDivingDeacon
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I don't understand why you guys don't just block 80deacon. He's either a troll or not listening to.
Well you've pretty much painted worst case scenario most of the season, so this is on brand.
No CBS and No Roberson, I can also imagine some worst case scenario. Clemson's D is no slouch despite how bad their offense is. I'm probably betting the under on this one.
Lot of talk about Clemson's defense. I heard the same thing about NC ST.
NC ST defense points allowed this year:
USF: 0
MS ST: 24
Clem: 21
BC: 7
Louisville: 13
FSU: 14
WF: 45 (And we missed a ton of opportunities)
I am not worried about our offense scoring.
Clemson Offense this year
UGA: 3
GA TECH: 14
NC ST: 21
PITT: 17
FSU & LOU: 30
I understand the dynamics here but this isn't the same Clemson program and this isn't the same Wake program. Deacs win.
If the world had amnesia about any college football history prior to this season and just went solely by this seasons results, including the eye test from each team's games this year. WF would be favored. That said, Clemson has been to the CFP six years in a row, WF hasn't won at Clemson since 1998, Clemson entered this season at #2 in the country, and WF was not in anyone's top 40. Clemson recruits 4 and 5 stars; WF recruits 2 and 3 stars.... Also, while it has been ugly, Clemson has won 5 of its last 6.
WF has overcome all of that existing knowledge to push the line down to 4 to 5 (had this game been played to open the season, WF would've been getting 24+). Time to complete the process.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how that's true that is. Bettors seem to have figured out Clemson lately (since their games against BC and Syracuse, leading up to their loss at Pitt) -- they line has been within seven points of the final result the past four Clemson games and they were, for example, only 3 point favorites @Louisville.
Vegas has been pretty decent at our games, too (despite the high scoring nature); four of the last six have been within seven points (all four actually within four points) with the exception of Army and Duke.
I actually think the pendulum has swung too far on Clemson -- hopefully they are hurt by injuries this weekend, but imo their on-field play warrants a top 25 ranking.
there's no data set that supports the narrative that we won't beat the shit of those hayseeds.
No CBS and No Roberson, I can also imagine some worst case scenario. Clemson's D is no slouch despite how bad their offense is. I'm probably betting the under on this one.
Clemson's defense is good enough to win a game almost exclusively. Clemson's offense wasn't good full strength and now they have a hobbled qb and are down their two top receivers.
I'm not sure how Clemson is ranked so high in the Power ratings. I mean they were lucky to beat Syracuse based on a fake punt, and would have lost to UL if Cunningham didn't get hurt. They should have lost ABC at home too with their backup quarterback.
state has given up less points this season than clemson. Clemson's defense is not that great.
look, if we need a barn raised, clemson is who you call. We aren't raising a fucking barn here.
I think Wake wins because Clemson's offense is so bad and now completely injured, but Clemson's defense is elite, even with some of the defensive injuries too.
Defensive Points given up:
UGA: 3 (Pick 6 by offense)
SC State: 3
Ga Tech: 6 (2 point safety by offense)
State: 14 (13 extra points in the 2 OTs)
BC: 13
CUSE: 14
Pitt: 20 (Pick 6 by offense)
FSU: 13 (TD on strip sack fumble)
Louisville: 24 - only bad defensive game
UConn: 0 (Kickoff return for TD)
My prediction is 30-20 Wake, and I'm a Clemson grad.