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Wake Forest Basketball Preseason Discussion Thread - Hudson and Watson Suspended

liveanddiedeac said:
2-5 in November would be terrible. We've got UMBC, Bucknell, Richmond, 3 games at Maui surely we win at least one, and Rutgers. Getting less than at least 3 wins would be very discouraging.
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If we can't win more than 3 games on that November schedule we might as well just shut the whole thing down.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
2-5 in November would be terrible. We've got UMBC, Bucknell, Richmond, 3 games at Maui surely we win at least one, and Rutgers. Getting less than at least 3 wins would be very discouraging.
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2-5 would be rough but it wouldn't really be that surprising. Without Codi and Crab, UMBC is the only game I'm confident about.

Bucknell and Rutgers aren't good but those are true road games.
 
TheIshThatSaved WakeForest said:
2-5 would be rough but it wouldn't really be that surprising. Without Codi and Crab, UMBC is the only game I'm confident about.

Bucknell and Rutgers aren't good but those are true road games.
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I mean it could happen, but we should win at least two out of Bucknell, Richmond, Rutgers, and 3 games in Maui.
 
TheIshThatSaved WakeForest said:
2-5 would be rough but it wouldn't really be that surprising. Without Codi and Crab, UMBC is the only game I'm confident about.

Bucknell and Rutgers aren't good but those are true road games.
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If we can't beat Bucknell and Rutgers, even without CMM and Crab, burn it all down. I hate to say it but, those are teams we should beat on talent alone. And our recruited talent has to be better than what Bucknell and Rutgers have.
 
Even with codi and crab we were only like sixty percent to win at bucknell. No reason to overreact if we lose an early season true road game to a decent mid major without them.
 
Fun fact - Rutgers closed out their season last year by losing their last 15 games straight. That was right after beating Wisconsin, who was ranked #4 at the time.

Bucknell went to the NIT and almost beat Villanova, so they actually weren't that bad. We did beat them though.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Even with codi and crab we were only like sixty percent to win at bucknell. No reason to overreact if we lose an early season true road game to a decent mid major without them.
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Eh. We need to make a leap as a program. That means winning these types of games.
 
I would argue that the jump would be not having these games be essential toss ups with your full roster rather than happening to win the coin flip on the road. That's probably semantics though.
 
Don't worry everyone, 2&2's stats feelers went off so he showed up! No war on statistics or education here at all though.
 
TheIshThatSaved WakeForest said:
For the record I think we'll lose to Bucknell, win 1 or 2 in Maui and beat Rutgers.

Richmond is a tough call.
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PhDeac said:
Eh. We need to make a leap as a program. That means winning these types of games.
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Maybe Wisconsin doesn't lose to Duke in the National Championship if only they hadn't dropped that mid-season game to Rutgers...

The point is it's ridiculous to set up any individual road game as some sort of litmus test for a program, particularly early in the season. It's not the end of the world if we're .500 or a game under heading into Xavier. After UNC we only play one top 10 ACC team until we close out the season against Duke. That's the run that's going to matter this year. Hopefully we get the freshmen lots of minutes early and the injuries/suspensions get cleared up well before then.
 
DCDeac said:
Maybe Wisconsin doesn't lose to Duke in the National Championship if only they hadn't dropped that mid-season game to Rutgers...

The point is it's ridiculous to set up any individual road game as some sort of litmus test for a program, particularly early in the season. It's not the end of the world if we're .500 or a game under heading into Xavier. After UNC we only play one top 10 ACC team until we close out the season against Duke. That's the run that's going to matter this year. Hopefully we get the freshmen lots of minutes early and the injuries/suspensions get cleared up well before then.
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Yeah, but the post we're responding to had us 4-8 going into ACC play and I think we basically saying that really shouldn't be acceptable. The schedule is tough, but we should be better than that.
 
DCDeac said:
Fun fact - Rutgers closed out their season last year by losing their last 15 games straight. That was right after beating Wisconsin, who was ranked #4 at the time.

Bucknell went to the NIT and almost beat Villanova, so they actually weren't that bad. We did beat them though.
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Actually, Bucknell lost to Temple (that other Philly) team in the first round.
 
MichDeac25 said:
Actually, Bucknell lost to Temple (that other Philly) team in the first round.
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I meant earlier in the year. Poorly worded, sorry. Think Temple won the NIT though? Can't remember.
 
Ball State Deac said:
Is there a reason we may not have Hudson back? Sorry, have not kept up with this thread, just know he is suspended for a a handful of games.
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DeacsATS said:
The Wake Forest release makes it sound like they are definitely coming back. It also sounds like there is a specific length of time that they will be unavailable, but they don't mention what that timeframe is.

I've seen posters reference 7 games, but I have not seen it verified anywhere.
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I heard Manning on the radio this AM (92.3 in the triad). They asked what player we're going to be talking about at the end of the year that would be a surprise and he answered Hudson (and his growing 2 inches, 20lbs and physically maturing), so, yeah, he'll be back.
 
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