Bubble Boy
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Damn. We just signed the next Jimmy Graham?!
Technically, he is a combination of Khalil Mack and Jimmy Graham.
Damn. We just signed the next Jimmy Graham?!
Technically, he is a combination of Khalil Mack and Jimmy Graham.
You guys are too much. A 6'5" basketball player at tight end. Heard of Jimmy Graham? This is a great grab for the Deacs. I am excited
I always dreamed about Rodney Rogers playing TE.
Would’ve been awesome.
TE Brenton Strange went to WF camp; WF offered him (along with a ton of other schools). He was a 4 star TE. Strange committed to PSU after last weekend (I assume he went to last weekend's tOSU/PSU game). Once that option was off the table, WF offered and got a commitment from Ford. You don't have to even look at recruiting rankings to know that WF preferred Strange (the higher rated recruit); just look at the order of the offers and the commitments. That said, Clawson and his staff have been good at finding guys like Ford - off the radar guys that have come to WF and become big time players (Bates, Haynes, Benzinger, Bassey, Dortch -- all of whom may play in the NFL). As mentioned above, Ford is a multi-sport athlete from a small school; so, the reason why he is a two star is because no one has evaluated him. Our staff has; not important that the 247 guy from VA didn't know him. Dude has a high ceiling. Glad we got him.
I believe we had a multi-page thread on this around this time last year. Not sure I remember how the numbers broke down of 2 and 3 Star players who were busts, against 2 and 3 Star players who panned out or exceeded expectations. I do recall many more 3 Star guys in the NFL than 4 and 5 Star, which is because there are more 3 Star recruits overall.
If you look at our roster over the last 10-15 years I think you’ll find that we’ve had more middle of the road/underrated recruits that panned out versus failed.
Anecdote: see Jesse Bates, Kevin Johnson, Chris Givens, Greg Dorth, Joe Looney, Nikita Whitlock, Alphonso Smith, Jon Abbate, Riley Skinner, John Wolford, too early to call but Sam Hartman most likely. The list goes on for WF recruits that were passed on by other programs who ended up having awesome college careers or going to the NFL.
Don't be so fucking obtuse with me son.
And WF also would have preferred Archibald Bowman (TE) — can’t remember if that’s even his name — over a player like 2 star Cam Serigne
Got the name right, but little else. Cam Serigne was actually here when Clawson arrived and redshirted in Grobe's last year (2013). Serigne became featured heavily at tight end as a redshirt freshman in Clawson's first season, with 54 catches for 531 yards and five touchdowns.
Archibald committed in late 2014 and enrolled early. He was injured in the spring, transferred closer to home to rehab and has never again played football. He was a highly-touted high-three star with offers from Miami, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi and UNC. There's no way to tell if he would have panned out or potentially pushed Serigne on the depth chart. Even if he hadn't, he theoretically would only be a redshirt junior this season.
Got the name right, but little else. Cam Serigne was actually here when Clawson arrived and redshirted in Grobe's last year (2013). Serigne became featured heavily at tight end as a redshirt freshman in Clawson's first season, with 54 catches for 531 yards and five touchdowns.
Archibald committed in late 2014 and enrolled early. He was injured in the spring, transferred closer to home to rehab and has never again played football. He was a highly-touted high-three star with offers from Miami, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi and UNC. There's no way to tell if he would have panned out or potentially pushed Serigne on the depth chart. Even if he hadn't, he theoretically would only be a redshirt junior this season.
I couldn't disagree any more with the assertion.
Clawson and his staff don't look at star ratings to evaluate players. They take in-person, live evaluation over almost everything. That's why you see so many players get offers either during or right after Wake camps. Now, sometimes star ratings come along with offers, and a lot of other schools come calling after a Wake offer (or commitment).
The current Wake staff would have preferred the tight end that they evaluated higher, regardless of star rating.
Will be surprised if we don’t lose some commits. Things look drastically different regarding the future of WF football than in July.
Will be surprised if we don’t lose some commits. Things look drastically different regarding the future of WF football than in July.
I couldn't disagree any more with the assertion.
Clawson and his staff don't look at star ratings to evaluate players. They take in-person, live evaluation over almost everything. That's why you see so many players get offers either during or right after Wake camps. Now, sometimes star ratings come along with offers, and a lot of other schools come calling after a Wake offer (or commitment).
The current Wake staff would have preferred the tight end that they evaluated higher, regardless of star rating.