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What are your thoughts about this quote about American foreign policy?

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"America has a simple ideology – that there is only one truth in the world, that truth is held by God, and God created the United States to be an embodiment of that truth. So Americans strive to bring this truth to the rest of the world and to make it happy. Only after that will everything be well."

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It bothers me that we elect people who allow our foreign policy to be guided by mythology.
 
It bothers me that we elect people who allow our foreign policy to be guided by mythology.
 
That quote could only be true post WW2 America. Americans thinking they are harbinger of all that is good and holy is fairly new concept historically speaking
 
That quote could only be true post WW2 America. Americans thinking they are harbinger of all that is good and holy is fairly new concept historically speaking

You're joking? Please say that you are joking?

ps - try reading George Washington's Farewell Address, or the views of the Puritans
 
You're joking? Please say that you are joking?

ps - try reading George Washington's Farewell Address, or the views of the Puritans

Absolutely...Americans have always had puritanical Christian views especially compared to the rest of the world but the idea of us being the moral police force is post WW2.

Edit...in other words, the last two sentences of that quote.
 
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I don't want to get into a dispute with you Skins on this but Americans' ideas of superiority and serving as an example to the world predate the republic.

As an aside, even the policing idea is earlier than WWII. Try the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine.
 
That quote is a bunch of happy horseshit and only a moron would believe it. How about that?
 
America is the world's sole superpower and is overwhelmingly a force for good. Both sides agree. Even leftists wanted the U.S. to step up in places like Sudan, other parts of Africa and East Timor.
 
I don't want to get into a dispute with you Skins on this but Americans' ideas of superiority and serving as an example to the world predate the republic.

As an aside, even the policing idea is earlier than WWII. Try the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine.

How do you predate yourself? Unless you're saying the post WWII US is the demarcation line for the republic.
 
"America has a simple ideology – that there is only one truth in the world, that truth is held by God, and God created the United States to be an embodiment of that truth. So Americans strive to bring this truth to the rest of the world and to make it happy. Only after that will everything be well."

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I will delay comment until I know who said it and can then 100% agree or disagree.
 
This is what drew my attention to the quote. It's a quote from a former Russian ambassador to the US.
http://www.vox.com/2015/5/4/8535963/russia-putin-america

There's a quote that speaks perfectly to this Russian worldview — and how Americans misunderstand it — in the most recent issue of Russia in Global Affairs, a Russian foreign policy journal that is widely considered to reflect the views of Russia's foreign policy establishment. The quote is from a Q&A with Vladimir Lukin, a prominent Russian diplomat and liberal politician who previously served as ambassador to the US:
Interviewer: In his 1994 book "Diplomacy," Henry Kissinger writes that "integrating Russia into the international system is a key task" for the United States. But as he was saying this, the Americans were actually pushing Moscow away with their policy. Why?
Vladimir Lukin: It is in the genes. America has a simple ideology – that there is only one truth in the world, that truth is held by God, and God created the United States to be an embodiment of that truth. So the Americans strive to bring this truth to the rest of the world and to make it happy. Only after that will everything be well. This ideology has a strong influence on their policy. A wise traditionalist and a geopolitical expert, Kissinger had good reason to call such politicians "Trotskyites" for advocating a world revolution, albeit in their own way, but always in the front and in shining armor. This is a tempting ideology and has been professed by different countries at different times, not only the United States.
Lukin is hardly seen as an anti-American hard-liner in Russia — rather, he's considered to be an objective expert on the United States and a highly professional diplomat. He is a founding member of the liberal opposition party Yabloko. That he would get the United States so obviously wrong — what Americans would call defending democracy and human rights, he sees as a far more radical and explicitly religious agenda of "advocating a world revolution" — is troubling. But his view is a common one, and that tells you a great deal.
 
America is the world's sole superpower and is overwhelmingly a force for good. Both sides agree. Even leftists wanted the U.S. to step up in places like Sudan, other parts of Africa and East Timor.

The only time anyone in that group wants the US of A to get involved anywhere is if it is NOT in our national interest. What was our "national interest" in Somalia? It was amusing watching members of the CBS try to justify the military operation on those grounds.
 
The only time anyone in that group wants the US of A to get involved anywhere is if it is NOT in our national interest. What was our "national interest" in Somalia? It was amusing watching members of the CBS try to justify the military operation on those grounds.

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