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What is the biggest game Chris Paul has won?

bobknightfan said:
I don't remember a Chris Paul WF team ever defeating a #1-ranked Carolina team. (Probably because it never happened.)
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You were still boycotting Wake when that CP3 team beat Carolina in 3OT, so of course you wouldn't remember it.
 
Ralph Medlin said:
He really shit the bed last night in the final seconds


That said, every team in the NBA would take him in a heartbeat
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I mean kind of. The whole "omg cp3 meltdown" thing is kind of stupid. If the refs had made the obvious call on the out of bounds replay we would be talking about how westbrook took another horrendous 3 in the final seconds and how KD went 4-18 in game 5 and people would be calling for Brooks to be fired and for Westbrook to be traded.

The Clippers outscored the Thunder by 11 with Chris on the floor last night. He had 17, 14, and 4 steals. They wouldn't have had a lead to squander if it weren't for Chris.

His meltdown wasn't even that much of a meltdown. He made three pretty good assumptions that didn't go his way

1. That given the time and score if Westbrook made contact as Chris brought the ball up in the backcourt the refs would call a foul;
2. That given the time and score the refs wouldn't call a foul on incidental contact after Westbrook's release
3. That given the refs demonstrated a willingness to let the game be decided at the free throw line, his best bet was to attack the basket and hope to draw a foul (which he did it just wasn't called).

It's not like he dribbled the ball off his foot, threw a pass out of bounds, or got burnt on defense. He was on the wrong end of some 50/50 calls that wouldn't have even mattered if not for the blown 100/0 call.
 
Love me some CPIII, but that was absolutely a meltdown. The review process is broken as hell right now, because the classic "not worth a foul but also not worth losing possession" calls don't hold up. The ball staying with OKC was actually the right outcome there. CPIII simply giving the ball to them when they had to foul, then fouling Westbrook on the 3 - again, you prefer they swallow the whistle there but replays showed Paul was underneath his shooting hand and there probably was some very light contact - you can't put yourself in a position to get called on that shot challenge.

Then with plenty of time on the clock he takes it himself, makes a couple tentative jab steps and never even got a shot off... You could tell he was out of it - his teammates could tell and kept trying to talk to him. Doc should have gone with Crawford for the last shot.
 
I see what you're saying, but if Chris Paul is going to be the Chris Paul he needs to be, he needs to take that shot. That's more important than even that one game.
 
bobknightfan said:
You don't have any idea what you are talking about....as usual. Carolina was ranked #4 going into that game. Furthermore (for Go), they were ranked #3 going into the January 15, 2005 game. (And I was actually there for that game.)

Too many people on this board just make up shit to post....seemingly without any concern at all as to the accuracy of what they are posting.

http://www.wakeforestsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/122003aaa.html

http://www.wakeforestsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/011505aac.html
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I never claimed they were ranked no. 1 at the time. I wasn't boycotting Wake Forest at the time, because I'm not a petulant clown. Just pointing out that you wouldn't remember the game in any capacity, no matter what your beloved UNC was ranked.
 
PhDeac said:
I see what you're saying, but if Chris Paul is going to be the Chris Paul he needs to be, he needs to take that shot. That's more important than even that one game.
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Probably true. Then again, being pretty much solely responsible for a 7 point lead turning into a 1 point deficit in 40 seconds isn't a normal situation - I think it'd rattle anyone.
 
The good thing about the NBA being the NBA, all this backlash will certainly result in a lot of free throws for the Clips come Game 6.
 
bobknightfan said:
You don't have any idea what you are talking about....as usual. Carolina was ranked #4 going into that game. Furthermore (for Go), they were ranked #3 going into the January 15, 2005 game. (And I was actually there for that game.)

Too many people on this board just make up shit to post....seemingly without any concern at all as to the accuracy of what they are posting.

http://www.wakeforestsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/122003aaa.html

http://www.wakeforestsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/011505aac.html
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In Go's defense, Carolina was #1 the only time it really mattered that year.
 
IrishSlim said:
The good thing about the NBA being the NBA, all this backlash will certainly result in a lot of free throws for the Clips come Game 6.
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Yeah, I think the Clippers still win Game 6. Unfortunately, I also believe their chance to win the series ended last night. Hope I am wrong.
 
The game Go was talking about was from the '03-04 season, so year before UNC won the title.

BKF old mannery averted. Phew!
 
qcdeac said:
Yeah, I think the Clippers still win Game 6. Unfortunately, I also believe their chance to win the series ended last night. Hope I am wrong.
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That's what really sucks about that series of plays by CP3. In all likelihood he just lost the entire series for them. Just brutal. Wouldn't be surprised if he puts up poor numbers next time out just because he'll be pressing himself to make up for it.

Really hope I'm wrong.
 
The biggest factor in last night's meltdown was not having DeAndre Jordan down the stretch on D -- I had a terrible feeling after he fouled out. CP couldn't stop Westbrook off the dribble, and Big Baby provided zero fucking help at the rim.
 
You are correct about the CP3, Doc and Crawford meltdowns. Utter fail. Wait, NOT Crawford. Not another 30 foot rainbow brick.

DCDeac said:
Love me some CPIII, but that was absolutely a meltdown. The review process is broken as hell right now, because the classic "not worth a foul but also not worth losing possession" calls don't hold up. The ball staying with OKC was actually the right outcome there. CPIII simply giving the ball to them when they had to foul, then fouling Westbrook on the 3 - again, you prefer they swallow the whistle there but replays showed Paul was underneath his shooting hand and there probably was some very light contact - you can't put yourself in a position to get called on that shot challenge.

Then with plenty of time on the clock he takes it himself, makes a couple tentative jab steps and never even got a shot off... You could tell he was out of it - his teammates could tell and kept trying to talk to him. Doc should have gone with Crawford for the last shot.
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PotentPotables said:
The biggest factor in last night's meltdown was not having DeAndre Jordan down the stretch on D -- I had a terrible feeling after he fouled out. CP couldn't stop Westbrook off the dribble, and Big Baby provided zero fucking help at the rim.
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Didn't Big Baby come in for Jordan, grab what should have been the game winning rebound off a missed free throw - then all of the remaining points scored by OKC were 1) 3 pointer by Durant, 2) steal and fast break layup, 3) free throws off 3 pointer foul by Paul ?
 
bobknightfan said:
And Carolina wasn't ranked #1 in either one of those games.
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No shit. I acknowledged that in a post 5 minutes earlier. I was clarifying for wsc.

Good to know your Chris Paul OGBoards Alert still works though.
 
dmcheatw said:
I happen to be the same age as CP3. I never knew CP3 but I knew people who played against him and some of the people he associated with.

A decade ago, we were all graduating from HS, and traditionally the seniors spend a week at myrtle beach. Other high schools, such as West Forsyth, also observe this tradition. Me and six of my friends found a place to stay that was reasonably close to everyone else, on a very short side street. This was before the state banned 190 proof everclear, so yeah we were having a great time.

One day, as my friends and I were in the process of rolling a dutchmaster, we noticed something was happening across the street. Within a few minutes, at least two dozen cars were parallel parked all along both sides of the street. Naturally we crossed the street straight away in anticipation of the only thing that's as good as sex and drugs during beach week: a fight.

We had already observed that there was a basketball half court behind the house that was directly across from our own, and a crowd was amassing around it and growing larger by the minute as friends called friends and everyone, from multiple high schools, converged on that spot. At this point we were not totally clear on what was happening, but it was obviously something exciting so we, along with our unsparked blunt, sat on a retaining wall that was directly behind and eight feet above the court. We sat down just in time, because within a few more minutes there were easily 200 people there, and those “box” seats would have been taken.

Whispers had been circulating that CP had agreed to play a pickup game with some dudes from up north. Turns out CP had met a trio of college students on vacation who played ball together for their school. One thing led to another and a wager was made. Those three agreed to play CP and one of his West teammates for 500 dollars.

I’m told CP proposed the bet, and they took it without hesitation. Now, I can’t tell you what those three college kids were thinking, but they were definitely thinking about how much coke and hookers 500 dollars could buy in Myrtle Beach, SC.

Fast forward to the game. From our vantage point we had a clear bird's eye view of the court. The whole thing was ringed with people, nearly four deep, all the way around. Some people had the foresight to bring chairs but the only seats you could have actually seen from were our own. The retaining wall was set back from the court by ten feet or so, meaning that we had peoples' heads at our feet as well. The atmosphere was phenomenal. Anticipation was building by the second. Everyone was hyped, Everyone was drunk underage, and in five minutes, we were gonna witness a high stakes pickup game featuring someone who was already at that point a living legend among us. And my roomies and I were gonna see it all from our "box" seats smoking a fat blunt.

The college kids were already on the court, ball in hand, waiting to collect their 500 dollars. Of course what they did not know, but everyone else did, was that CP was headed for the NBA, and not to warm the bench. I have no doubts at some point that fact was mentioned to them before they passed the point of no return, but they must have dismissed it as a tall tale (how many 17 year olds have you run across who could start in the NBA? and would you believe the other 17 year old who is telling you?). What could a bunch of teenagers tell them about basketball that they didn’t already know? And of course, this was three on two. What could go wrong?

Well, apparently a lot of stuff could go wrong.

Some time passed and, much like a fight, we began to think the rumor was just that; a rumor. Yet before we could get up to cross the street back to our place, guess who showed up?

CP and his colleague had first possession. I assume they shot for it, and CP is what a 93% FT shooter? So uh yeah. As soon as the ball hit the concrete, we lit the blunt. At this point my memory gets a bit hazy (I wonder why) but I do remember three things.

Firstly, CP himself drew first blood on that initial possession. Overconfident, defender one immediately went for the steal, which was mistake one. Actually it was mistake two, mistake one was taking a bet against a future all-american, all-star Olympiad.

Anyway, one crossover between the legs, followed by behind the back, followed by a mid-air shot adjustment got past all three defenders in as many seconds for the reverse layup. I think after that single first possession, i think it was at that point the college guys realized for the first time they might have to cut their vacation short.

The next thing I remember was several possessions later CP lobbing the ball from the side of the court to his protégé for the alley oop.

It wasn’t like a two handed scooter banks jam, but I’m sayin’, he put that shit down.

And, as if that wasn’t enough, the final thing I remember was after the lead was clearly established, at the top of the key, CP took the ball and bounced it off the defender’s forehead.

In case you didn't get that let me reiterate, HE BOUNCED THE FUCKING BALL OFF DUDES FOREHEAD AFTER HE WAS ALREADY DOMINATING TWO VS THREE.

Needless to say, those northerners lost their 500 dollars. The funny thing is, those three really DID know how to play ball. they had the build for it, college level coaching, and were older by two or three years. When the ball wasn't stolen, they generally did manage to score using movement and motion in accordance with a team that had a blatant numerical advantage. Plus they behaved perfectly rationally at all times. Sure they were white, but who wouldn't take that bet three on two!?... They just didn’t anticipate they were facing someone who, within three years, would be arguably the best player in the national basketball association, and by extension, the world.

I do know for sure those guys never forgot his name or who he was. What I do not know was if CP had a CP3 way or a CP4 way that night, but I would bet 500 dollars that he did one or the other.

As it turned out, the experience was way better than the fight we were expecting AND the blunt, although you were not wondering, was one of the best I’ve ever smoked.
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http://www.ogboards.com/forums/showthread.php/13042-Chris-Paul
 
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