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Official Hoops Coaching Search Thread - Welcome Danny Manning!!!

Michigan and Ohio State have infinitely more basketball tradition than Wisconsin, and they're both top tier Big Ten jobs. Wisconsin simply isn't in that category.

Right now WI is a top tier Big Ten hoops program. Having tradition only carries you so far. The best Big Ten schools right now for hoops are MSU, Wisconsin, OSU, Michigan and, you could try and argue, Indiana.
 
He who shall not be named hasn't been silent...do we think he's out of the search?

I can see it now:

Presser announced, Wellman steps out.....

"After an extensive search, we've decided that we needed to look no further than the previous staff to find our new head coach....I present to you.....Mr. Jeffrey [Redacted]."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

fuck off and die

ETA: I may or may not have overreacted.
 
All of the above. We're about to come full circle on WF message board moderation.

You sound like RJ. Just FYI.

OLD BOSS SAMES AS NEW BOSS.

It's a slippery slope from salty truth-teller to crazed, ranting old man. Step away from the ledge, BDZ, step away! We like you as you are already!
 
I do deals for a living and have for over 20 years. The first rule of a deal, ANY deal, is that time is always the enemy of the deal getting done. All sorts of things can intervene and keep the deal from happening. So the longer this takes, the harder it has been. Now whether we've been able to get to the table with our top targets I think remains a fair question. And we could always still end up with whomever the No. 1 target is. But the longer it takes to get an announcement, the lower the odds it will be with one of our top targets.

Agree with both your points. Time is certainly an enemy on a normal business deal...however we have no idea when the contact began, thus have no real estimate on how much time has taken place since we contacted our top targets. Could be we have been putting out lines of communications for weeks, could be that we have communicated for a few days. It would not be surprising to see this last a few weeks given the magnitude of the decision for the prospective coach. Howland would sign today, of that I am sure, because he has no job. But if we are contacting coaches like Shaka, then they are going to be leaving a situation that is very acceptable to their career and their family. Thus, they are going to want to be very deliberate about the choice.

Patience is going to be the key in this one. We could hire a coach today if we wanted. Turner would be on a plane in 30 minutes if we wanted him. So I choose to believe that in this coaching search, time is somewhat of a mixed bag. Yes, in general it can cause problems in closing a deal, but in this case it also means we are pursuing worthy candidates. For some reason I have faith that Wellman is going to pull this off. Perhaps it is the Clawson hire, but whether or not we sign Shaka, I have a fair amount of optimism for our hire. Despite what Bz has done to our program, we are still in a great situation, and that speaks to the kind of job we have. We are not first tier, but in my opinion we are a solid second tier program.
 
I do deals for a living and have for over 20 years. The first rule of a deal, ANY deal, is that time is always the enemy of the deal getting done. All sorts of things can intervene and keep the deal from happening. So the longer this takes, the harder it has been. Now whether we've been able to get to the table with our top targets I think remains a fair question. And we could always still end up with whomever the No. 1 target is. But the longer it takes to get an announcement, the lower the odds it will be with one of our top targets.

Ha ha- reminds me of that scene in Die Hard just before the guy gets his brains blown out and splattered all over the window.
 
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You sound like RJ. Just FYI.

OLD BOSS SAMES AS NEW BOSS.

It's a slippery slope from salty truth-teller to crazed, ranting old man. Step away from the ledge, BDZ, step away! We like you as you are already!

So sensitive. So dense.
 
I am reliably told that Wake extended a formal contract offer to Shaka Smart either late Tuesday evening or early Wednesday morning and he is now deciding what he wants to do. He was receptive during talks, but I do not want to say that he will definitely be our new coach, as that is still up in the air right now. I can also not say with any certainty if there were any negotiations yesterday between Wake and Coach Smart after the initial offer.

But that is where things stood about 24 hours ago.
 
And for you Twitter losers, please keep this info on the boards so we don't stir up a shitpot.
 
I am reliably told that Wake extended a formal contract offer to Shaka Smart either late Tuesday evening or early Wednesday morning and he is now deciding what he wants to do. He was receptive during talks, but I do not want to say that he will definitely be our new coach, as that is still up in the air right now. I can also not say with any certainty if there were any negotiations yesterday between Wake and Coach Smart after the initial offer.

But that is where things stood about 24 hours ago.

Well this can't be the final post on a page.
 
I am reliably told that Wake extended a formal contract offer to Shaka Smart either late Tuesday evening or early Wednesday morning and he is now deciding what he wants to do. He was receptive during talks, but I do not want to say that he will definitely be our new coach, as that is still up in the air right now. I can also not say with any certainty if there were any negotiations yesterday between Wake and Coach Smart after the initial offer.

But that is where things stood about 24 hours ago.

#SCOOP

OMGOMGOMGOMG
 
Agree with both your points. Time is certainly an enemy on a normal business deal...however we have no idea when the contact began, thus have no real estimate on how much time has taken place since we contacted our top targets. Could be we have been putting out lines of communications for weeks, could be that we have communicated for a few days. It would not be surprising to see this last a few weeks given the magnitude of the decision for the prospective coach. Howland would sign today, of that I am sure, because he has no job. But if we are contacting coaches like Shaka, then they are going to be leaving a situation that is very acceptable to their career and their family. Thus, they are going to want to be very deliberate about the choice.

Patience is going to be the key in this one. We could hire a coach today if we wanted. Turner would be on a plane in 30 minutes if we wanted him. So I choose to believe that in this coaching search, time is somewhat of a mixed bag. Yes, in general it can cause problems in closing a deal, but in this case it also means we are pursuing worthy candidates. For some reason I have faith that Wellman is going to pull this off. Perhaps it is the Clawson hire, but whether or not we sign Shaka, I have a fair amount of optimism for our hire. Despite what Bz has done to our program, we are still in a great situation, and that speaks to the kind of job we have. We are not first tier, but in my opinion we are a solid second tier program.
great post and I agree. In this particular situation, given the target's having to deal with this issue on an annual basis, I believe the fact that there has been no announcement that he's staying is very good for us. Looking at it from the VCU perspective, I am more and more worried as time goes on with no announcement.
 
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