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Official '16-17 NBA Thread: not with a bang but a whimper

Chris Paul was drafted by an 18-64 team and by the 3rd year, with David West and not much else, had them at 2nd in the West and lost in 7 games to the Spurs in the 2nd round. I mean he won Byron Scott a Coach of the Year award. I'd say he was a franchise changing player.
 
PhDeac said:
Ayo, if I understand you correctly, you are looking for a player that could go to a shitty lottery team and turn them into a championship contender within 4 years.

Yeah. It's hard to argue Fultz or Smith can do that if their college teams can't even make the tournament. Same with Simmons.
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Not exactly. Obviously personnel around the player will have a lot to do with team success. I guess it's more of a projection of whether I think that player can be a #1 option on a legit #contender with a #contender-quality supporting cast. Wishy washy, I know.
 
Fuck Your Couch said:
I'd say if you could seriously win MVP of the league you fit the bill.
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So roughly those 8 guys then. And the youngest of those guys is AD - 5 drafts ago (unless you believe that much in KAT, Zingis, Embiid, etc., I guess).
 
Embiid, my dude.

Nobody thought Kawhi had MVP potential when he got drafted. Nor Steph. Crazy things happen.
 
Ayo said:
So roughly those 8 guys then. And the youngest of those guys is AD - 5 drafts ago (unless you believe that much in KAT, Zingis, Embiid, etc., I guess).
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JuiceCrewAllStar said:
Embiid, my dude.

Nobody thought Kawhi had MVP potential when he got drafted. Nor Steph. Crazy things happen.
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not a static list, guys can be young and move into it or get old and move out (Dirk). There's probably around 10 every season who are in an MVP caliber window. Some young guys may have potential to enter.
 
Right, so some 25 or so guys are, have been, or will be. Easily more than one per draft class.
 
It just feels like there's been a lack of elite ELITE players to come out the last 5 years. But maybe a lack of time for development and the superteams are biasing my take. I'm looking forward to the new CBA and the superteams going away to some extent and LeBron retiring.
 
After watching Otto Porter go from worthless to third option on a good team, I've learned to pump the breaks on player development evaluations.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
Kawhi and Steven Adams gonna take down the Dubs or Lebron? Okay, bro.
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deaconson said:
SA beat reporter saying LMA out for season.
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Juice, do you think the Spurs are finished if LMA is out for the year?

I think people really underrate Kawhi. I think it's a lag because he makes big leaps from year to year. He's the 2 time reigning DPOY and 7th leading scorer. He's likely to win it for a 3rd year. Last player to win DPOY and average over 25 a game was Hakeem.
 
Ayo said:
It just feels like there's been a lack of elite ELITE players to come out the last 5 years. But maybe a lack of time for development and the superteams are biasing my take. I'm looking forward to the new CBA and the superteams going away to some extent and LeBron retiring.
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JuiceCrewAllStar said:
After watching Otto Porter go from worthless to third option on a good team, I've learned to pump the breaks on player development evaluations.
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LOL. I think Ayo is talking about elite players like Shaq and Duncan who were immediately among the best players in the league. There hasn't been a rookie All-Star since Griffin.
 
Ayo said:
Why? You have Rudy Gobert or Isaiah Thomas being #1s on a legit contender? Agree to disagree, then.
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It's dumb that you think the only good draft picks are 5 dudes in the league from a decade ago
 
PhDeac said:
LOL. I think Ayo is talking about elite players like Shaq and Duncan who were immediately among the best players in the league. There hasn't been a rookie All-Star since Griffin.
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Neither did kawhi or steph. You have bad criteria.
 
David Lee gonna get REVENGE on the Dubs. Ewing theory, heard it here first


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