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palmab03 said:
Also fairly absurd to state we need federal subsidies to help people who make at least $50k a year
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Definitely not absurd in CA or other expensive states. What's absurd is how insurance companies inflate our costs. Our RX prices are a crime as well.
 
If Ryan can guarantee that the House won't pass it then the Senate will pass it.

Collins and Murkowski will almost certainly say no again, so I'm guessing it will again pass 50/50 with a Pence tiebreaker.

What is occurring is absolutely shameful and disgusting. The Senate is passing it solely for the purpose of being able to say they passed something. It won't become law, and we are back to square one effectively.

How the hell can you in good conscience vote on a bill to pass that you know must fail in the House because you don't want it to become a law?
 
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Deacsfan27 said:
If Ryan can guarantee that the House won't pass it then the Senat will pass it.

Collins and Murkowski will almost certainly say no again, so I'm guessing it will again pass 50/50 with a Pence tiebreaker.
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Caputo could go no at this point. McCain will say no unless he gets something from Ryan.
 
Hey they released the bill. At 9:53 on the night they are voting on it. Seems normal.
 
Prevention fund repeal in the bill. Cuts 13% ($1 billion) of the CDC budget.
 
It will be interesting to see if this bill actually will need 60 votes because it defunds PP.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
I think they vote on sending it to committee first instead of the amendment (skinny repeal).
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They are voting to pass the bill. It then goes to the House and it's up to the House to decide if they go to committee. And then the House (and the fucking Freedom Caucus) have all the leverage. They can make demands and if the Senate says no, they just pass the bill and send it to Trump, who will sign it immediately.
 
Looks like the 1332s (state waivers) are back in the bill but significantly changed. I'm not wonky enough to fully understand the implications. It looks like they kept some of the ACA "guardrails" that prevent the states from screwing people over that the previous version had eliminated. They kept language that states that request waivers need to cover about as many people with coverage that is at least as comprehensive. But also decreased a lot of the federal oversight and extended the length of the waivers.
 
Hilariously, two of the things they supposedly hate, medical device tax and employer mandate, are both delayed but not repealed, I assume to try to make the money work.
 
I also don't understand how they can make a ruling on these budgetary questions without a CBO score.
 
tiltdeac said:
They are voting to pass the bill. It then goes to the House and it's up to the House to decide if they go to committee. And then the House (and the fucking Freedom Caucus) have all the leverage. They can make demands and if the Senate says no, they just pass the bill and send it to Trump, who will sign it immediately.
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Right, but I think Murray made a motion to committee to be voted on before the amendment.
 
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