Price or Skinner?

[jamesda3]

defense wins championships and that is what Riley had. His 13 td to 12 int career average shows just how awesome Skinner was.

You guys have got to realize that the D was responsible for those teams. A couple of high draft picks and leading the country in take aways.

 

[TBDeac]

I still dont understand why you people cant understand that Price has more raw talent as a QB but that doesnt undermine anything Skinner did

Skinner was not a talented QB. He was a talented leader, facilitator and a gamer. He made things happen, but that doesnt mean he was tremendously skilled

Put Skinners head on Tanner, or Tanners arm on Skinner and you have a hell of a QB

I agree with everything you say here, but IMO, some people are underestimating the intangibles related to QB play in determining who is a better football player. I think last night highlighted that.

 

[EagleDeac]

Why can't you understand that raw talent means very little when assessing QB play, unless you think Michael Vick and Jeff George are/were better than Tom Brady. So far, Tanner is not much different than any dime a dozen starting college QB from around the country. There have been a lot of QB's at Wake that were better than him, not just Skinner. Raw talent - big deal. Let's see some touch, some pocket presence, some better decision making and especially some better throws in big moments of important games - not truly awful ones like last night.

QUOTE=DeacdeTejas;498429]I still dont understand why you people cant understand that Price has more raw talent as a QB but that doesnt undermine anything Skinner did

Skinner was not a talented QB. He was a talented leader, facilitator and a gamer. He made things happen, but that doesnt mean he was tremendously skilled

Put Skinners head on Tanner, or Tanners arm on Skinner and you have a hell of a QB[/QUOTE]

 

[Deacfreak07]

I still dont understand why you people cant understand that Price has more raw talent as a QB but that doesnt undermine anything Skinner did

Skinner was not a talented QB. He was a talented leader, facilitator and a gamer. He made things happen, but that doesnt mean he was tremendously skilled

Put Skinners head on Tanner, or Tanners arm on Skinner and you have a hell of a QB

Of. Course you would. He could throw with his left and his right arm.

 

[ProbationDeac]

I agree with everything you say here, but IMO, some people are underestimating the intangibles related to QB play in determining who is a better football player. I think last night highlighted that.

You can have a lot of talent but the intangibles are what can make you even better. The fact that Riley wasn't the most talented yet he played hard, smart, and made plays speaks to how special he was. Tanner has more talent and still has two years to get even better. Right now Riley is still the better QB.

 

[BillBrasky]

Skinner completes that 4th down throw last night...god this thread was fucking retarded

 

[greekdeac2011]

Skinner was an excellent game manager, gamer and accurate passer. His W-L record though was attributed to the NFL defense we had for this first three years, not his skill. We only managed a 5-7 season in 2009 after they all went pro despite Riley having a career year.

Tanner was disappointing tonight no doubt, but I think we are all forgetting that Riley had a few disappointments on final drives as well. I think Price has tremendous upside and will be one of the ACCs best QBs if he continues to progress as he has. That doesn't mean I like Riley less. He did wonderful job when he was here and will go down as one of the greats in WF history. It is really unfair to compare the two though because Riley played with the best defense in school history. If we compare 2009 and 2011, it is a wash.

I will say Tanner's teams have performed much better in death valley than Skinner's ever did.

 

[dmcheatw]

How is this one so close? Price has led us to back to back losing seasons.

i wouldn't say he led us to losing seasons, i mean the surrounding team matters too. when we didn't have such a vaunted defense Skinner went 5-7.

i voted skinner for a few reasons, but one thing is for sure price does not throw INTs like skinner did. i also think price has a higher ceiling, even though skinner did orchestrate game winning drives.

if our line is 1/2 decent next year the team could average 30 points per game and tanner could have a 4:1 TD:INT ratio. people are just mad right now cause of last night.

the question was who is better at football, not who has done more for wake or who is the better athlete, and i think it's pretty close.

 

[Deadbolt]

After last night, I think it's pretty clear that Skinner is the correct answer. Last night, Skinner would have given us a chance to win.

 

[jamesda3]

I doubt it.

 

[wefinish]

I still dont understand why you people cant understand that Price has more raw talent as a QB but that doesnt undermine anything Skinner did

Skinner was not a talented QB. He was a talented leader, facilitator and a gamer. He made things happen, but that doesnt mean he was tremendously skilled
Put Skinners head on Tanner, or Tanners arm on Skinner and you have a hell of a QB

Reminds me of a fellow by the name Tim Tebow...

 

[wefinish]

Riley had ice in his veins.

My favorite Deacon football game that I have ever attended (and there's been a lot) is by far the 2007 vs. Maryland. The final quarter/overtime by itself solidifies me in the Skinner camp.......at least for now. (Even if he did throw 3x as many picks as TD's that game)

Winner, Winner, Skinner Dinner!

 

[IAppreciateIt]

Riley's "talent" continues to be severely underrated by our fans. He may have been short and unathletic, but he had a strong, accurate arm. His arm strength is by far the most underrated part of his game -- it was actually a positive for him after the combine.

 

[PansyAssDeac]

Skinner. Nothing much to add that hasn't already been said a number of times -- the intangibles that don't show up on a stat sheet. Riley had leadership qualities from yr. 1. Yes, he was forced into the role, but its how he responded and continued to respond that puts me solidly in the Skinner camp.

Tanner still has time, but as of today he's not in the same league.

 

[seventwofour]

Skinner threw 13 picks his sophomore year. Tanner has thrown 14 interceptions in his first two seasons.

 

[BobStackFan4Life]

Anyone feel differently?

 

[Ayo]

LOLOLOL

 

[bmoneydeac]

Go, please do offer us some of your wisdom, oh wise one. I'd love to hear some substantiation as to why young kids are idiots...

I'm staying with Price. In my opinion, both more technically proficient at this age and with more potential (both in terms of his individual development and the fact that our team is looking to be BAWSE going forward). If I'm wrong, then feel free to lambast this post in the future. It'll be easily searchable.

OOOOOOPPPSS!

 

[VaDeac]

Looking to be BAWSE. Not so much.

 

[BobStackFan4Life]

deadlocked at 40, that's crazy

For most of this thread the voting was neck and neck, with the board pretty much evenly split. This was supposed to be the year Price was really gonna shine. Obviously that's not happened, at least not yet. What happened?