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Would you rather pay Manning $2M or pay a top assistant $900K to coach at Wake?

Would you rather?

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AnonymousDeac said:
What does the extra $1.5M do for me as a fan? I can't expect that money would be saved and used to overspend on a coach in the future?

I'd rather our school continue to show a commitment to winning by forking out money than save it for who knows what.
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You don't set a terrible precedent. If Manning does well (and I believe anyone could for the next 2 years we will have a veteran roster) you have to compensate that. He is already showing he will peddle for pennies and if he gets offered anywhere else he will leverage us to death.

If he fails, a new coach comes in with more experience than Manning (who doesn't) and wants the 2mil plus some. No thanks.

Also if Shaka still has an offer he can accept here, whatever it is is greatly diminished by the fact that a guy with barely any experience is getting 2 million.
 
WFU Lurker said:
That's because I believe in my subjective opinion. You, however, believe your subjective opinion is objective, and it isn't.

Both of the names I mentioned would be considered to be high end position coaches as well as ace recruiters. I don't care whether or not someone was a top player, and Danny's head coaching experience, while better than no experience, hardly blows me out of the water.

Danny is a huge risk. You don't spend $2M on huge risks.

Rather, go out and get an elite assistant for $800-1000k.
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Four years ago I'd probably be on board with you.

We cannot go for an assistant at this point. It wreaks of total desperation.

Add to that we have missed on other established coaches. To hire an assistant who has never been a D1 HC would be devastating to our brand.

P.S. I'd much rather have the assistants than Howland. You cannot overestimate how badly he's burned AAU bridges. I've talked to two HS coaches and someone who does AAU. Howland is poison for at least a couple more years. I'm not sure he can recover to be high D1 anytime soon.
 
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Mich Assistant for 500K and let Thon Maker and Harry Giles split the leftover $1.5 million. #RogueOperation
 
RJKarl said:
Four years ago I'd probably be on board with you.

We cannot go for an assistant at this point. It wreaks of total desperation.

Add to that we have missed on other established coaches. To hire an assistant who has never been a D1 HC would be devastating to our brand.
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Hiring a guy with 2 years head coaching experience for 2 million doesn't WREAK TOTAL DESPERATION. IT SCREAMS LATE NIGHT ROOFIE DESPERATE
 
RJKarl said:
Four years ago I'd probably be on board with you.

We cannot go for an assistant at this point. It wreaks of total desperation.

Add to that we have missed on other established coaches. To hire an assistant who has never been a D1 HC would be devastating to our brand.
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Ha, you think this whole Danny Manning situation doesn't wreak of desperation? We supposedly offered a 2nd year head coach $2M and have him dragging us through the press.

Danny isn't an established coach, btw.
 
WFU Lurker said:
Ha, you think this whole Danny Manning situation doesn't wreak of desperation? We supposedly offered a 2nd year head coach $2M and have him dragging us through the press.

Danny isn't an established coach, btw.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to WFU Lurker again.
 
You need to get off the $$. The number is relevant only to the conference.

We just can't take an assistant coach at this point.
 
RJKarl said:
Whether we spend $1.8M or $500K or $2.3M on a coach, we have all the money we need to recruit. It's total BS to think otherwise.

I'd much rather take my chances with Danny Manning coming into a recruits house than some no name assistant. If you don't see how much better this is for our program, you are blinded by ignorant hate.
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Save your energy RJ. These people are off the deep end.
 
TopHat said:
Hiring a guy with 2 years head coaching experience for 2 million doesn't WREAK TOTAL DESPERATION. IT SCREAMS LATE NIGHT ROOFIE DESPERATE
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The numbers are irrelevant. The world knows we offered Shaka at least $3M. no self-respecting current coach is going take much less than $2M.

The fact that Tulsa has offered over $1.2M (and would likely go a little higher) is MORE to them than $2M is to a team in the ACC.

Dollar amounts are relative to your conference not the outside world.
 
MichDeac25 said:
Save your energy RJ. These people are off the deep end.
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You are off the deep end if you recognize that Danny is an extremely high risk proposition as his current head coaching experience consists of two years with another coach's recruits? [Redacted] had a stint where he put up pretty good results over two years with another coach's recruits.
 
RJKarl said:
The numbers are irrelevant. The world knows we offered Shaka at least $3M. no self-respecting current coach is going take much less than $2M.

The fact that Tulsa has offered over $1.2M (and would likely go a little higher) is MORE to them than $2M is to a team in the ACC.

Dollar amounts are relative to your conference not the outside world.
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Relative to the conference ehh? If we pay a 2nd year coach whose highest finish is 73 in KenPom 2mil he will be making more than:

Jim Boeheim: 948-319
Roy Williams: 724-190
Jamie Dixon: 288-96

What a precedent to set. WE WILL PAY SOMEONE WITH NO EXPERIENCE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE SO DESPERATE
 
MichDeac25 said:
Save your energy RJ. These people are off the deep end.
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You think a coach who had a record of 27 wins and 28 losses a couple months ago is worth $2+ million per year. Sorry, but it's you who are off the deep end. Manning might work out for us, I sure hope so, but it is an unproven, risky hire.
 
TopHat said:
Relative to the conference ehh? If we pay a 2nd year coach whose highest finish is 73 in KenPom 2mil he will be making more than:

Jim Boeheim: 948-319
Roy Williams: 724-190
Jamie Dixon: 288-96

What a precedent to set. WE WILL PAY SOMEONE WITH NO EXPERIENCE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE SO DESPERATE
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If you really think that's all they make. i have a bridge for sale.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
You think a coach who had a record of 27 wins and 28 losses a couple months ago is worth $2+ million per year. Sorry, but it's you who are off the deep end. Manning might work out for us, I sure hope so, but it is an unproven, risky hire.
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Far less risky than Ben Howland.
 
chill will be HC for next to free.... so, NO!!
 
WFU Lurker said:
Revisit the premise of the thread.
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OP premise is flawed, we couldn't hire a top assistant for 500K. Head coaches in the ACC make ACC head coach money, otherwise they stay at their top assistant position making 500K.
 
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