On an offer? Yes, a lot. WF reneges on offers every year when they finalize their recruiting class and all of the remaining offers are no longer active/valid. Pulling an offer from a recruit is pretty common, especially when schools changes coaches.
On a commitment? Probably but I'd imagine that it is very rare and in unique circumstances.
I don't understand why you don't get the difference between basketball and football.
I don't understand why you don't get why this can destroy a program and make us look classless. When was the last time you say UNC or Duke or L'ville or Cuse or any really top program do this? There's a reason.
Manning saw CMM's ACC game videos from this year and threw up. He's been looking for shooters ever since.
You cannot sign a LOI for a scholarship your school doesn't have. Getting a commitment is one thing. Signing an LOI is a totally different animal.
1) Going through a coaching change is a different circumstance.
2) Pretty sure Kentucky does it
Also no one is going to blink twice when players 13-15 transfer from Wake Forest. There are about 500 transfers every year. I'd rather win than worry about being classy in a small segment's eyes.
It's hilarious that rj is given credit for an opinion held by about 90% of posters on this thread.
There's a difference, IMO, between anticipating turnover because you're sending guys to the NBA and anticipating turnover because you're treating your roster as a JV basketball team (ie Anthony Davis vs. Anthony Fields), at least in terms of how those messages play out on the recruiting trail.
Also, Hudson and Watson won't be coaching change-transfers. Manning could have prevented both situations, the latter situation especially easily, from ever happening.
How could manning have prevented Watson? He already signed, right? Hudson's status is a complete unknown, hence there's a discussion. Are you saying you would have been in favor of Wake reneging on our signed recruits because we hired Manning? Because that is totally a shit thing to do and would be an embarrassment to the program. Particularly for a player who wouldn't be ok with heading elsewhere.
Same way Manning prevented Shelton Mitchell?
How could manning have prevented Watson? He already signed, right? Hudson's status is a complete unknown, hence there's a discussion. Are you saying you would have been in favor of Wake reneging on our signed recruits because we hired Manning? Because that is totally a shit thing to do and would be an embarrassment to the program. Particularly for a player who wouldn't be ok with heading elsewhere.
I should have said the former. I was referring to Hudson.
Regarding Watson: we could have and should have released him from his NLOI when Shelton decommitted. It would suck, but considerably less than basically forcing guys out after two or three years as many are suggesting. We essentially agree, I think, but I'd put significant money on neither Watson nor Hudson graduating from Wake, assuming Manning plans on following up on his many elite 2015 & 2016 offers. I'm far less comfortable banking on half of our scholarship players being forced out/transferring than telling one player that he committed to an old coach and there is a new sheriff in town.
That, to me, is so much worse.