Going to GA- Bring your gun to the airport!

[EatLeadCommie]

More people. It's an international location especially at ATL. I'd hate for visitors to the US to be welcomed by idiots carrying around rifles. It's not a good look.

lol. Do you know how many international airports have soldiers walking around with automatic rifles? A shitload.

 

[BigTreeDeac]

Yes, because clearly identifiable soldiers and police carrying guns is the same thing as civilians doing so. Tanks with live ordinance for everyone it is. I mean if a soldier does it why not all of us, right ELC?

Also, pretty sure the average tourist initially has an adverse reaction to the Polizei patrolling the airport with assault rifles.

 

[PhDeac]

More people. It's an international location especially at ATL. I'd hate for visitors to the US to be welcomed by idiots carrying around rifles. It's not a good look.

lol. Do you know how many international airports have soldiers walking around with automatic rifles? A shitload.

This is the problem. Average Joes who don't have the balls to join the armed forces think they're soldiers.

 

[WakeandBake]

Holy shit I just realized wrangor is the best parody ever. He has people dying outside the ER while he steps over saying "I'm fine with it" on his way to church where he's more comfortable with Bubba Hatfield and Leroy McCoy packing pistols , while American soldiers burn in the field with no rescue or due process for deserting.

Best. Parody. Ever.

 

[Wrangor]

Obsession.

 

[Wrangor]

More people. It's an international location especially at ATL. I'd hate for visitors to the US to be welcomed by idiots carrying around rifles. It's not a good look.

This is the problem. Average Joes who don't have the balls to join the armed forces think they're soldiers.

And liberals are supposed to be open minded. A whole lot of assumptions and mind reading in this thread.

Here is a question:

How many people have been shot by open carry permitted gun owners in a public place this year? I honestly don't know. Would be interested to find out. It seems that many of you feel open carry people are a serious treat to our public safety so I would be curious to know just how prevalent this kind if shooting is in public places like restaurants, malls, airports, etc....

 

[ONW]

There have been 293 incidents resulting in the murder of someone else in churches across the US.

Over the last 15 years. (1999-2014)

There are approximately 450,000 churches in the US.

If we assume only 1% of the US population attends church, approximately 3,000,000:

Your chances of being shot in church are 0.0000651%

The number of accidental gun deaths was 824 in 1999 alone.

Reposting

 

[WakeandBake]

Obsession.

You are just amazingly off the reservation. Like a train wreck - I don't want to see but I can't look away. You are a walking contradiction. Every thread I post on you are saying some off the wall shit

 

[DDA]

Living in fear? Carrying a gun is not living in fear. I don't even own a gun. It just doesnt seem crazy to me that people would want to carry one.

Sorry, if you are going to a church where someone is packing and it makes you feel more "comfortable," that is living in fear. Maybe fear is a strong word. You're living in insecurity. Church is a place for reverence, peace, and holiness. Guns don't jive with that. This reminds me of the Kernersville preacher who incessantly talks about having his "gun at the pulpit." Makes me want to puke. I'm not saying you're like this preacher, Wrangor, but the rhetoric/logic is completely unnecessary and drives people away (except for white people) from the church. No one needs a gun in church. No one. And I go to church in urban Durham. Having a gun in church just fuels the "us vs. them" fire. Us vs. them = gun toters vs. anyone remotely opposed. Completely distracts from the Gospel's message of love.

Edit: and I own guns. Love to shoot skeet and hunt quail, turkey, and pheasant

 

[Wrangor]

Reposting

And how many airport shootings from open carry? What are the numbers on that? Public place shootings from open carry?

No one seems to want to post those statistics. I will warrant you that it is not likely that a guy will come in and shoot up a church. But I bet the odds of that are much better than a licensed open carrier taking a hostage and hijacking a plane from the ticket counter.

 

[Wrangor]

You are just amazingly off the reservation. Like a train wreck - I don't want to see but I can't look away. You are a walking contradiction. Every thread I post on you are saying some off the wall shit

Cute. Like a stalker. Just can't look away.

 

[Wrangor]

Sorry, if you are going to a church where someone is packing and it makes you feel more "comfortable," that is living in fear. Maybe fear is a strong word. You're living in insecurity. Church is a place for reverence, peace, and holiness. Guns don't jive with that. This reminds me of the Kernersville preacher who incessantly talks about having his "gun at the pulpit." Makes me want to puke. I'm not saying you're like this preacher, Wrangor, but the rhetoric/logic is completely unnecessary and drives people away (except for white people) from the church. No one needs a gun in church. No one. And I go to church in urban Durham. Having a gun in church just fuels the "us vs. them" fire. Us vs. them = gun toters vs. anyone remotely opposed. Completely distracts from the Gospel's message of love.

Edit: and I own guns. Love to shoot skeet and hunt quail, turkey, and pheasant

Point taken. I know 4 people in my church that carry to church. I would describe 1 out if 4 as living in fear. The other 3 just carry at all times. Putting on a gun is like putting on a belt for them. They are used to it have done it forever and it is just a part of their routine.

The odds aren't likely I realize that. I am just reticent to minimize people based on one part of their daily life. This thread is full of snide, sarcastic, denigrating remarks towards anyone who disagrees with the anti-gun crowd. Heck - bake keeps following me around to tell me how pathetic I am. It is like Moonz all over again.

I am not a gun advocate per say. I have fired a weapon 3-4 times in my life. I just see a lot of very stable people on a day to day basis who carry a weapon in a responsible manner and aren't living in fear of the boogeyman. So it strikes me as pretty narrow minded when posters assign pretty harsh personality defects to normal people simply because they don't think like they do.

Pretty much the MO of this board when discussion gets confrontational. Attack the messenger.

And no one has dared to address the question if just how often licensed carriers shoot people in public. That is what the hysteria on this thread is supposed to be about. Speaking in platitudes is only ok if you take the anti-gun position apparently.

 

[RevDeac06]

Point taken. I know 4 people in my church that carry to church. I would describe 1 out if 4 as living in fear. The other 3 just carry at all times. Putting on a gun is like putting on a belt for them. They are used to it have done it forever and it is just a part of their routine.

If church/worship doesn't make you do things differently, again, you're not doing it right.

 

[Wrangor]

If church/worship doesn't make you do things differently, again, you're not doing it right.

Thanks for the lecture. So. Carrying a weapon is now a sin?

 

[PhDeac]

And how many airport shootings from open carry? What are the numbers on that? Public place shootings from open carry?

No one seems to want to post those statistics. I will warrant you that it is not likely that a guy will come in and shoot up a church. But I bet the odds of that are much better than a licensed open carrier taking a hostage and hijacking a plane from the ticket counter.

How do you know who is a licensed open carrier and who isn't?

 

[RJKarl]

And liberals are supposed to be open minded. A whole lot of assumptions and mind reading in this thread.

Here is a question:

How many people have been shot by open carry permitted gun owners in a public place this year? I honestly don't know. Would be interested to find out. It seems that many of you feel open carry people are a serious treat to our public safety so I would be curious to know just how prevalent this kind if shooting is in public places like restaurants, malls, airports, etc....

You may not get mugged the first time or the third time you go into a bad neighborhood, but if you do it enough, the chances rise.

Conversely CO had a concealed carry law and the guy still shot up the movie theater.

There was a concealed carry in AZ when Gabby Giffords got shot and others were killed. In fact someone there was carrying. But the shooter wasn't stopped until he ran out of bullets and had reload.

Concealed carry laws didn't those or many other crimes.

 

[RevDeac06]

Thanks for the lecture. So. Carrying a weapon is now a sin?

If you want a lecture, let me know, I'll work on it. Is it a sin? Yea, probably. Don't have time to launch into a full theological treatise right now to lay out the thoughts/arguments.

But two quick points-
1) I wasn't giving a lecture, nor did I bring up the idea of "sin." I simply pointed out the error in preparing for worship like you do every other day of the week (gun as habit, as you suggested). If worship doesn't change you, or make you do things differently, then it's not living up to its potential / purpose.

2) Did Jesus stutter when in the garden he said "put down the sword?"

 

[RJKarl]

But a gun isn't a sword.

Isn't intimidating or scaring people wrong?

BTW Wrangor, although I'm not sure if his wife and kids would always agree with, Rev is one of the most laid back non-judgemental people on the board.

 

[DeacinBama]

I feel like this whole open- or closed-carry debate is a converse fallacy. I think most people recognize that most gun-related violence occurs because of unlawful people committing unlawful acts. But it does not follow that it is a good idea for lawful people to carry guns to carry out potentially lawful (e.g. self-defense) acts.

I understand that the history of 2nd amendment jurisprudence permits open/closed carrying, and debating those points is beyond the scope of this thread. So, as a Constitutional issue, the concept may be decided at present. But a lot of this is contortion to try to justify the Constitutionality is just that - contortion. Just because the courts/legislature have decided it is Constitutional for you to carry a weapon into X, Y, or Z doesn't mean that it's needed, advisable, or reasonable. You'd be a lot better off just pointing to the 2nd amendment and saying "scoreboard".

 

[PhDeac]

It saddens me that a large cross-section of our citizenry supports fewer restrictions on the right to bear arms while putting more restrictions on the right to vote.