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Voter ID laws would have prevented 31 cases from 1 BILLION votes

If there is one group of people that don't understand the constitution its definitely supreme court justices. If only we could replace them with people more representative of the constitutional intelligence of the general public, definitely starting first with a 65+ year old non-lawyer/political scientist/constitutional scholar from California.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
If there is one group of people that don't understand the constitution its definitely supreme court justices. If only we could replace them with people more representative of the constitutional intelligence of the general public, definitely starting first with a 65+ year old non-lawyer/political scientist/constitutional scholar from California.
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Also I think there's a guy who goes by "Junebug" on the internet that disagrees with most of the last 100 years of constitutional jurisprudence, he's probably up for the job.
 
PhDeac said:
Seems simple enough for a public university or college student ID to include residency.
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Yeah, but you could change your residency during your time at a school. And why is it the school's responsibility to keep up with that?

Deacfreak07 said:
Yea, that's surely the motivation.
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I understand the whole problem about how it is difficult for some people to obtain a proper ID, and perhaps the motivation behind this is to try and suppress the vote even more, but if you are a college student and can't figure this process out then you are a retard and probably shouldn't be voting anyway. And really, how many students don't have picture IDs? Seems like that number would be phenominally low.
 
wfudkn, schools keep track of residency in order to charge the proper tuition.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...h-Carolina-poll-workers-offering-ballots.html

I don't really get this. He didn't actually sign anything (since it's illegal - voter fraud) but that's the whole point isn't it? If you vote as someone else you're committing a felony and it's illegal to do. Just really strange.
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Are you being intentionally dense on this? He's clearing trying to blow a hole in the whole "fraud never happens" position of democrats. And he erroneously thinks that showing it's easy to defraud the system means that it happens a lot.
 
The stated (lol) purpose of voter ID is identification not residency. otherwise passports wouldn't be acceptable
 
PhDeac said:
wfudkn, schools keep track of residency in order to charge the proper tuition.
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Yolp, universities most definitely keep track of where their students live. It's very common for out of state students to remain in that state after graduation.
 
Liquid Karma said:
Are you being intentionally dense on this? He's clearing trying to blow a hole in the whole "fraud never happens" position of democrats.
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I get what he's doing the point is how many people actually do it? He's not even actually doing it because as is mentioned, it's a felony to do so.
 
The purpose has NOTHING to do with voter fraud. It's 1000% about voter suppression. It's bury your head in the sand brainwashing to think otherwise.

Hell the Speaker of the House in PA and the Chairman of the FL GOP have said so in public.
 
I'll never understand the logic behind denying someone the right to vote who has been convicted of a crime and completed their sentence.
 
how can you possibly trust a convicted felon with giving you an accurate estimate of time spent on an activity, ph
 
PhDeac said:
I'll never understand the logic behind denying someone the right to vote who has been convicted of a crime and completed their sentence.
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Some bad decisions follow you around for the rest of your life. I do not see the logic in it, but I am not bothered by it either. Just an ongoing cost of being a felon.
 
olddke said:
Some bad decisions follow you around for the rest of your life. I do not see the logic in it, but I am not bothered by it either. Just an ongoing cost of being a felon.
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Do you believe that penalty deters crime in any meaningful fashion?
 
olddke said:
No, I said I do not see the logic in it.
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Then why not find it upsetting? Just because it doesn't impact you directly? Or just anyone convicted of a crime ceases to deserve full participation in civil society?
 
Deacfreak07 said:
What is the point of having that penalty last beyond any other time served?
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You lose certain rights when you are convicted of a felony. I believe the theory behind it is that your judgment has been demonstrated to be questionable so as not to be trusted with certain responsibilities. In most states, a convicted felon can never buy a gun or serve on a jury either.
 
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