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NCAA considering freshmen ineligible rule for basketball per 247 Sports

I'm confused, do we want the NCAA to only focus on money or do we expect them to improve the lives and futures of their players?
 
This rule would not improve anyone's life. Forcing a superstar to sit out a year of his career for some paternalistic notion of "we know what's best for you" is batshit. And just because you're the only one not arguing against this batshit rule doesn't mean you're immune to groupthink or somehow above the fray. It just means you have a stupid opinion.
 
Why should the NCAA care about losing a few kids a couple million dollars out of tens of millions of dollars, instead of focusing on the thousands of kids who leave collegiate sports unprepared to support themselves bc they were never given time to academically adjust to college? Or they were encouraged to get the HS diploma equivalent of a degree in order to stay eligible.

Football sits out freshmen players every year, so they can mature physically and academically. Seems to be working out for them.
 
BillBrasky said:
Why should the NCAA care about losing a few kids a couple million dollars out of tens of millions of dollars, instead of focusing on the thousands of kids who leave collegiate sports unprepared to support themselves bc they were never given time to academically adjust to college? Or they were encouraged to get the HS diploma equivalent of a degree in order to stay eligible.

Football sits out freshmen players every year, so they can mature physically and academically. Seems to be working out for them.
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Is there a rampant problem of kids not being able to juggle college basketball and academics? Funny, they aren't worried about swimmers and wrestlers and lacrosse players juggling sports and academics as freshmen. This rule is clearly targeted at the dudes good enough to leave after 1 year so they might not have to do well in some bullshit classes that they don't need 2nd semester and it upsets all the OWGs that these guys with more talent than they have can write their own ticket and use the NCAA to their own advantage in the slightest.
 
On a different note, if I was the father of a top HS prospect who was a one-and-done candidate I'd tell him to go to Europe instead. Learning to be a professional in your chosen profession, while living a baller lifestyle in the Mediterranean at the age of 18, sign me up.

Why go play pretend at college.
 
BillBrasky said:
On a different note, if I was the father of a top HS prospect who was a one-and-done candidate I'd tell him to go to Europe instead. Learning to be a professional in your chosen profession, while living a baller lifestyle in the Mediterranean at the age of 18, sign me up.

Why go play pretend at college.
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So Brasky would prefer Greek chicks over Austin chicks?
 
Fuck Your Couch said:
Is there a rampant problem of kids not being able to juggle college basketball and academics? Funny, they aren't worried about swimmers and wrestlers and lacrosse players juggling sports and academics as freshmen.
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Actually, yes. Just google "college athletes failing after school" and go crazy. Here is one article:

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/article_101937.shtml

Of the Division I men’s basketball teams that were in the Sweet 16 tournament earlier this year, the graduation rate of White male student athletes was 98 percent, for Black male student athletes, it was an abysmal 55 percent according to The Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports (TIDES). The institute located at the University of Central Florida, is headed by Dr. Richard Lapchick.
 
That article opens up a whole other host of issues which I don't think the sports board is a good place to discuss.
 
BillBrasky said:
Actually, yes. Just google "college athletes failing after school" and go crazy. Here is one article:

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/article_101937.shtml

Of the Division I men’s basketball teams that were in the Sweet 16 tournament earlier this year, the graduation rate of White male student athletes was 98 percent, for Black male student athletes, it was an abysmal 55 percent according to The Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports (TIDES). The institute located at the University of Central Florida, is headed by Dr. Richard Lapchick.
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That article basically has nothing to do with this rule.
 
Just using it for its stats Numbers. Don't give two fucks about the opinions in it. Here's another number for you stat geeks:

The study found that black men made up just 2.8 percent of full-time, degree-seeking undergraduate students, but an overrepresented 57.1 percent of the football team members and 64.3 percent of male basketball players. The study identified dozens of institutions in Division I, such as Marquette University (77 percent) and the University of Miami (72.4 percent) where more than two-thirds of the black undergraduate men on the campus were athletes and some schools where more than half were athletes.

More alarming, 49.8 percent of black male student-athletes at these schools don’t graduate within six years

http://www.theshadowleague.com/arti...are-failing-their-black-male-student-athletes
 
Pretending their isn't an enormous racial divide between the way black and white student athletes are handled isn't going to make the problem go away.

You're telling me an extra year, where the focus is only on getting students academically adjusted to school, wouldn't help to address this inequality enormously? What say yee professor?
 
BillBrasky said:
Pretending their isn't an enormous racial divide between the way black and white student athletes are handled isn't going to make the problem go away.

You're telling me an extra year, where the focus is only on getting students academically adjusted to school, wouldn't help to address this inequality enormously? What say yee professor?
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“The only system in America that’s worse than the prison industrial complex is the NCAA,” said Dr. Watkins.

You're using this article that says the NCAA uses blacks like slaves to promote your OWG agenda.
 
BillBrasky said:
Just using it for its stats Numbers. Don't give two fucks about the opinions in it. Here's another number for you stat geeks:

The study found that black men made up just 2.8 percent of full-time, degree-seeking undergraduate students, but an overrepresented 57.1 percent of the football team members and 64.3 percent of male basketball players. The study identified dozens of institutions in Division I, such as Marquette University (77 percent) and the University of Miami (72.4 percent) where more than two-thirds of the black undergraduate men on the campus were athletes and some schools where more than half were athletes.

More alarming, 49.8 percent of black male student-athletes at these schools don’t graduate within six years

http://www.theshadowleague.com/arti...are-failing-their-black-male-student-athletes
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44% of all college students don't complete their degree in 6 years.
 
The fact that you think I'm promoting an OWG agenda is fucking sad. Bro I'm getting my Masters in Education and all we talk about is how we can amend our education system to help the underserved. Like all goddamn day. I'm currently writing two papers about it and have an hour long presentation about Culture and Diversity in Secondary Education on Wednesday I'm preparing. With my partner being a HISPANIC chick. Crazeballs! I know.

I'm becoming a liberal hippie educator overnight. I can't help it.

So my point of view on this (admittedly starting out as a simple contrarian one) is from that perspective. While the aim of this goal might be a power play for the NCAA it could actually stand to benefit the students that they are currrently failing.
 
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