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What's going down in Israel with election?

Yeah, they have no vested interest in a "realistic" peace plan. If only they'd pay attention to the American left, things would be wonderful! After all, this administration has served as a beacon of light and peace for the entire world...
 
I must be naive but is the consensus on this board that Israel is the problem. Iran should be trusted and Palestinians know the true path to peace?
 
no, the consensus is that the ME is full of assholes and that we should not be (as) involved nor let one or two players determine the course of our foreign policy.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
no, the consensus is that the ME is full of assholes and that we should not be (as) involved nor let one or two players determine the course of our foreign policy.
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I agree with "as" involved but I think the issue is more nuanced than 1 or 2 players determining foreign policy.
 
Deacs89 said:
I must be naive but is the consensus on this board that Israel is the problem. Iran should be trusted and Palestinians know the true path to peace?
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Not really an either or scenario in the ME.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
Not really an either or scenario in the ME.
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In what respect? Israel is an ally and pretty much Hamas/Iran/ISIS want to annihilate them.

has there ever been peace in the ME?

If you were the PM of Israel how would you handle the current situation? I am honestly asking for insight as I know my opinion is not one that would be accepted here but I admit I am not an expert.
 
I don't know if there is a board consensus on Israel, but my personal opinion is, with the amount of money we give them, we should be able to get them to not bomb children playing on the beach.

But we can't, because if you say that in the US, it is considered by many to be the same as saying that Israel is the problem, Iran should be trusted, and Palestinians know the true path to peace.
 
avalon said:
I don't know if there is a board consensus on Israel, but my personal opinion is, with the amount of money we give them, we should be able to get them to not bomb children playing on the beach.

But we can't, because if you say that in the US, it is considered by many to be the same as saying that Israel is the problem, Iran should be trusted, and Palestinians know the true path to peace.
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So the issue is Israel keeps bombing children on the beach?
 
I'm against religious extremist warmongering regardless of religion, nationality, or political leanings. If that puts me at odds with American conservatives, Israel, and Iran, so be it.
 
bobknightfan said:
The U.S. is more like Israel's "rich uncle" than anything else. We provide them with money & weapons and they pretty much do whatever they damned well please.
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Pretty much agree. The Palestinian leadership is no bride's dream either, it has to be noted, and they get a ton of money too. The ME is full of distrust and fear. Consequently, many politicans are tempted to exploit it.
 
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PhDeac said:
I'm against religious extremist warmongering regardless of religion, nationality, or political leanings. If that puts me at odds with American conservatives, Israel, and Iran, so be it.
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yep
 
PhDeac said:
I'm against religious extremist warmongering regardless of religion, nationality, or political leanings. If that puts me at odds with American conservatives, Israel, and Iran, so be it.
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Good luck taking on three armies at the same time.
 
The immediate result of this is going to be violence. The Palestinian leadership and their enablers and proxies are terrible (just so no one accuses me of being a Hamas sympathizer). They have, with varying success and with varying degrees of consistency, used the promise of a future Palestinian state and an ongoing peace process to keep a damper on the hotheads they allegedly rule. Now the ruler of Israel has washed that out and stated plainly that there will be no Palestinian state, which is tantamount to saying there will be no peace. How can the Palestinian leaders, especially the PA, continue to call for calm and peace and negotiations when the other side is outright stating there will be no negotiated resolution? Hamas will be able to say "I told you so" and the PA looks like fools in the eyes of their constituents for being strung along by Bibi for 10 years. Predictable result: violence, a lot of dead Palestinians, and Israel becoming even more of an international pariah than they are now.
 
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