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Retired US Soccer / World Cup Thread (RIP)

Screamindemon3 said:
No definitely not. I just saw it on my twitter feed and could not believe that. Amazing stat IMO
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Brazilians wouldn't allow a non-Brazilian player to manage, hell they barely allow psuedo-Brazilians to even play for the Nats.

Italians... yeah, no non-Italian will manage them. Ever.

Same for Germans.


That's 12 of the 19 titles among those 3 nations alone. I get what you are saying, but this might be a "chicken/egg" situation.
 
Screamindemon3 said:
None of the 19 World Cup champions has been coached by a man from a foreign country.
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Brazil - Why would they ever hire a foreign coach?

Italy - They pride themselves on tactics. People hire their coaches not the other way around.

Germany - Too much pride to hire a foreign coach.

Argentina - They have no reason to hire a foreign coach, but I could see them hiring one some day (probably an Italian).

Uruguay - Won't win the World Cup again.

Spain - Could see them hiring a foreign coach.

France - They're French. They'll resist a foreign coach.

England - They surrendered to the idea a long time ago.
 
siff said:
Pretty good piece on the Euro invasion of the US this summer

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6812391/football-fight-hearts-minds-fans-us-roger-bennett
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The strategy can work in reverse. The European teams could import role models from the American sports pantheon who have a genuine curiosity about soccer. "America needs more athletes like Steve Nash who can articulate a sense of wonder around the sport," Schafer said. "Manchester United need to get Chris Paul and dump him in a fan section at Old Trafford," Jon Cohen proposed, "then sit back and capture his reactions throughout the game."
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That's a cool idea.
 
Jon Spector signs 2 yr deal w/ Birmingham. C Hughton: "He is versatile and can play in a few positions. I think he will be a big asset."
 
Spector will do well in the Championship. That's about his level. Good luck to him.
 
ESPN Insider: Young players helped by Klinsmann

http://insider.espn.go.com/sports/soccer/blog?name=us_national_soccer&id=6827362

When he took over the German national team after a poor European Championship in 2004, the first thing Juergen Klinsmann did was cut the dead weight. That meant fast tracking retirement for a score of Die Mannschaft's veterans, and a search for the young pieces that could be molded into the fast-paced, aggressive side Klinsmann hoped to craft.

Given the talent pool, repeating that process in America will not be such an easy task. But the clear need to stimulate generational change at many positions -- a need somewhat sidetracked by Bob Bradley's loyalty to aging veterans -- suggests Klinsmann's hiring will mean opportunity for some new faces.

Olympic team shoe-ins such as Mixx Diskerud, Brek Shea and Timothy Chandler will now get clearer shots to prove their worth, but what about some even younger American players? There are some exciting teenagers among the U.S. soccer ranks who may get a call sooner rather than later from a coach who's not afraid to put his faith in up-and-comers. And with a new set of eyes evaluating the American talent pool, there may be some prospects moving up the list who you haven't heard much about in the past.

Bear in mind that America's most promising U-20s aren't ready for the big time. But everyone on this list is at least on the verge of first-team club soccer -- an approximate tipping point for making the USMNT radar.

John Anthony Brooks, D, Hertha Berlin (GER)
The 18-year-old Brooks had a few reps for Thomas Rongen on last cycle's U-20 team and will be a key building block when the team attempts to return to the U-20 World Cup in 2013. The promising central defender had an eventful summer, turning down a contract offer from Bayern Munich to sign a long-term pro deal in Berlin. Brooks has been issued a first-team squad number this year, and he was on the bench for the recent friendly with Real Madrid -- meaning he's close to seeing first-team action in the Bundesliga. Given the ongoing game of musical chairs at the centerback spot, Brooks may not be far from a trial run for the Nats.

Josh Gatt, D/MF, Molde (NOR)
Gatt was on Bradley's radar, and he'll be on Klinsmann's. The Michigan native's rapid ascent in Europe has his name being batted around as a possible call-up for the September friendly in Belgium, even though he's never played an official match for the U.S. at any level. A speedy winger who has also filled in at right back for his club, Gatt has reportedly been recommended to Manchester United by his club coach, Ole Solskjaer. It will be interesting to see if Klinsmann's hiring speeds Gatt's path into the full national team, and if so, which position the German finds him most suited to play.

Conor Doyle, F, Derby County (ENG)
Doyle was Rongen's best player at the U-20 qualifying tournament in the spring, showing plenty of versatility to go along with an impressive dose of skill and soccer smarts. If there's a young American player in the pool that may remind Klinsmann -- if just a little -- of himself, it may be the lanky Texan. A clever goal poacher most comfortable at the top of the attacking formation, Doyle's been a regular preseason starter at Derby County, so there may soon be a space for him at one of Klinsmann's camps.

Adrian Ruelas, F, Jaguares (MEX)
Like Bradley before him, Klinsmann will be pressed for options up top if he wants to use his preferred 4-4-2 formation. Ruelas, another young American striker on the verge of making a name for himself at the club level, may help fill that need. He carried the U.S. U-20 team that won the Milk Cup last summer but wasn't a regular with the team after that. Instead, Ruelas spent time training at Celtic before returning to Mexico to make his first-team debut for Santos in the spring. With other young U.S. forwards seeing limited club time but still getting looks for the national team, Klinsmann may want to keep tabs on Ruelas' loan spell this fall at Jaguares de Chiapas.

Jann George, F, Nurnberg (GER)
An exciting young Bundesliga prospect with the build and goal-getting wherewithal to become a powerful target man, George may be one to watch down the road. Even after an injury curtailed a promising season with Nurnberg's U-19s last year, he signed a professional contract over the summer and has been training with the first team. He's still a year or two away from a Bundesliga debut but is one for Klinsmann to keep an eye on nevertheless.

Luis Gil, MF, Real Salt Lake (USA)
As we told you last week, Gil has been progressing in leaps and bounds for RSL. He's far too green to contribute to the full national team in the short term, but Klinsmann is certain to be in the hunt for a true No. 10 in the years ahead and Gil is the most promising of the American bunch. West Ham's Sebastian Lletget, who looks to have made the first team after the Hammers' relegation to the Championship, could also play himself into consideration at that spot with a good season in England's second flight.

Notes
• Brooks' teammate at Hertha and fellow German-American Alfredo Morales, also a centerback, made an appearance in that friendly against Real Madrid. He's another up-and-coming Bundesliga-based player sure to be registering on Klinsmann's radar screen.

• The U.S. U-18s completed their participation in the Milk Cup with a 2-1 win over Georgia in the third-place match, behind goals from Jerome Kiesewetter and Jordan McCrary. Coach Mike Matkovich's side finished the tournament with two wins and a tie.

• Without U.S. participation for the first time in eight editions, the FIFA U-20 World Cup kicked off over the weekend. Guatemala, which eliminated the U.S. in qualifying, suffered the most lopsided loss of the first round -- a 5-0 defeat at the hands of Nigeria.
 
Josh Gatt goal



Learn something new everyday, had no idea that Gatt was white. Not sure who I have him confused with that made my think otherwise. Maybe Joe Gyau
 
That isn't the point dv7. Americans know who CP3 is. Having him looking like he is having fun at a Utd game could only be good for their brand in the US.
 
Timmy Chandler to fly stateside and feature in the #usmnt - El Tri friendly. I guess Nuremberg isn't worried about him getting tired #cough
 
Screamindemon3 said:
Timmy Chandler to fly stateside and feature in the #usmnt - El Tri friendly. I guess Nuremberg isn't worried about him getting tired #cough
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If Chandler is as good as we hope, that may have just justified Klinsmann's hiring on its own.
 
DeacMan said:
But sending him to a match in England is friggin' plastic. If you want to get a real reaction - send him to a game like Galatassary/Fenerbache.
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I get your point DeacMan. However the point of the league is in the increase the marketability of leagues that already have a presence in the US. Basically the EPL, Real-Barca, and possibly some other top Euro clubs.
 
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I'm ready to get a second look at Chandler. I thought he impressed in the Argentina and Paraguay friendlies.
 
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