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The Night Of on HBO

KickballDeac said:
The blood splatter they showed on the walls made it look like blood would've gotten all over Nas' clothes.
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If there was any clues revealed in the montage where Naz tries to remember having sex with the girl, I didn't see it.

The montage was right at the beginning, where we slowly ascend the staircase in a haze with the sound of Naz and the girl having sex upstairs. Then, the montage ends with Naz in his jail cell. It seemed to imply that this was him trying to remember what happened. Unless it was someone else upstairs having sex with her and his memory is really him going up the stairs. Otherwise, I didn't catch anything helpful in the sequence to determine who killed the girl.
 
Outside of the framework of just the show, the way the director focuses on how crimes impact everybody (shot of the family with the empty chair, detective and lawyer going home to their respective houses while Naz is in jail, etc) is an integral part of the show as well. A lot of social commentary, especially with the sentencing of the "Jew", who gets 18 months, and then the black man who gets three years. Speaks a lot about how the director and his staff feel about crime inequality in our current justice system. Not to even mention the arraignment, the lighting when they are going into Rikers for the first time, and the emotions that come with the "holy shit, I'm really going to jail" moment.

I'm going to have to watch the show again, but a couple of things that I think will prove important is:

1. Taking the home computer that presumably belongs to the brother.
2. Hightower clearly plays a pretty important role in this as well, at least in the next episode, since he is a clear repeat offender/familiar with Rikers.
3. The stepfather was weird as hell and clearly knows more than he let on.
 
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Deacsfan27 said:
Outside of the framework of just the show, the way the director focuses on how crimes impact everybody (shot of the family with the empty chair, detective and lawyer going home to their respective houses while Naz is in jail, etc) is an integral part of the show as well. A lot of social commentary, especially with the sentencing of the "Jew", who gets 18 months, and then the black man who gets three years. Speaks a lot about how the director and his staff feel about crime inequality in our current justice system. Not to even mention the arraignment, the lighting when they are going into Rikers for the first time, and the emotions that come with the "holy shit, I'm really going to jail" moment.

I'm going to have to watch the show again, but a couple of things that I think will prove important is:

1. Taking the home computer that presumably belongs to the brother.
2. Hightower clearly plays a pretty important role in this as well, at least in the next episode, since he is a clear repeat offender/familiar with Rikers.
3. The stepfather was weird as hell and clearly knows more than he let on.
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to point 3, why did he say it wasn't her in the photos?
 
Oh, also, there has to be a lot going on with the knife that was found on him. The game that they played before the murder took place is relevant beyond just character development for the (now dead) Andrea since it was clear she wouldn't be lasting a long time. I am guessing there will be an inconsistency between the knife that was used to stab her hand and the knife that was used to actually murder her. Whether or not Nas tells the truth about playing the game (which clearly his lawyer doesn't really care about) could go a long way in determining his fate if it gets to trial.

Also, it's pretty clear that his lawyer thinks he did it since he doesn't want to hear the whole story. Gives him the ability to not just seek a plea deal if Nas told him that he actually committed the crime.

This show is extremely well done.
 
BostonDeac said:
to point 3, why did he say it wasn't her in the photos?
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Obviously one of the bigger "WTF" things with him.

I wonder if there was a sexual relationship going on with him and Andrea. It was clear that he didn't want to see the actual body, which would (to me) indicate a relationship beyond the standard step-father, step-daughter relationship.
 
at this point, the hot doofus takes are almost as fun as the show itself
 
The acting in this show blows me away. John Turturro was born for this role. And the guy who plays Naz is also fantastic.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
Oh, also, there has to be a lot going on with the knife that was found on him. The game that they played before the murder took place is relevant beyond just character development for the (now dead) Andrea since it was clear she wouldn't be lasting a long time. I am guessing there will be an inconsistency between the knife that was used to stab her hand and the knife that was used to actually murder her. Whether or not Nas tells the truth about playing the game (which clearly his lawyer doesn't really care about) could go a long way in determining his fate if it gets to trial.

Also, it's pretty clear that his lawyer thinks he did it since he doesn't want to hear the whole story. Gives him the ability to not just seek a plea deal if Nas told him that he actually committed the crime.

This show is extremely well done.
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I don't agree that the "lawyer thinks he did it". He just thinks that's it's not relevant to his defense and that the "truth" has the ability to hamper his defense. Every defense attorney has to wrestle with the notion of putting his client on the stand. One of the things that goes into that decision is whether or not he believes that the client is going to perjure himself. A lawyer cannot illicit what he knows to be perjured testimony. As he put it, not hearing Naz's version of events gives him more options down the road.

Agree with the poster who praised Turturro's acting. He has been nothing short of terrific in this role.
 
The one thing that I can't shake is the fact that since Naz blacked out, he can't be 100% certain that he didn't kill her. What happened during the time frame that he blacked out? That's going to be a problem for him at some point.
 
A lot of this show reminds me of Serial, and the issue with what exactly happened is somewhat similar to Adnan Syed because he can't account for his actions.
 
If Naz had done it he'd have been covered in blood, unless there is evidence he took a shower or something. Maybe that leaking showerhead in the morgue (also seen in the opening credits) is foreshadowing of this. The stepfather seems the most likely suspect but that would be too obvious- he's just there to throw us off. I think it might end with you not knowing if Naz is guilty or not.
 
I laughed when they read out the charges and those black guys were like "WTF". Wonder why the detective gave him a shirt that said "Harvard". Was it indicative of how he sees him or was he fucking with him, thinking it might make him a target in jail. Or maybe thinking it would help him with the judge. Also, I think there's gonna be something on his brother's computer.
 
I also loved the first two episodes. I definitely noticed that they were panning in on the brother for way too long. And obviously the black dude (Bodi? I didn't watch the Wire) lied about his creepy friend.

And then the stepdad initially lying about her body. That actually struck me as the weirdest. My crazy hot take is that the victim is not Andrea Cornish. It's someone else. The stepdad character just lied and said it was her to avoid having to see the body. Maybe Box or Stone figures that out and it leads us down a whole different path. Although they both did talk about it being her house so maybe not.
 
When he asked her what her name is, she didn't tell him did she? I can't remember. Not watching it as closely as you guys. It did cross my mind the body they have might not be her.
 
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