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General Election Thread: Two Weeks Out

avalon said:
One of Trump's campaign's stated strategies was to get probable Hillary voters to stay home by making her as toxic as possible. Granted the Dems did him a favor in nominating a flawed candidate. But still, lowest # of voters since 2000.
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The primary was pretty toxic. Accusations of election fraud (pushed by RT). The supporters of one of the candidates was convinced they were cheated. Hard to overcome.

That was a pre-made wedge issue for the Trump campaign and wikileaks to expose to keep turnout down among the left.
 
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ImTheCaptain said:
The party who blames women for being sexually assaulted blames Democrats for making them vote for Donald Trump
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I am not Republican. I did not vote for Trump. I said fuck when I checked in on the results at 6AM London time and saw he was leading. This is not the result I wanted. But, taking a step back, it is understandable.
 
What's the precedent for rolling back things like gay marriage? Since the courts operate within the framework of the law how does something that granted rights to people get repealed especially within such a short time frame, like nah you guys were actually wrong and boom it's done. Does this happen? Serious question for any law scholars here.
 
WFU Lurker said:
Rhetoric of Dems lead to Trump. People got tired of being called racist, homophobic, sexist, privileged, bigoted etc for being on the conservative side of issues. Calling people names only entrenches them. It doesn't change anyone's mind.

Political discourse in this country is terrible.
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Meanwhile, we get to listen to these folks calling people the n-word, faggots, libtards, terrorists, baby-killers, etc.
 
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ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
What's the precedent for rolling back things like gay marriage? Since the courts operate within the framework of the law how does something that granted rights to people get repealed especially within such a short time frame, like nah you guys were actually wrong and boom it's done. Does this happen? Serious question for any law scholars here.
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Precedent is judges can do whatever the fuck they want. Will make it a decision of the states.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
What's the precedent for rolling back things like gay marriage? Since the courts operate within the framework of the law how does something that granted rights to people get repealed especially within such a short time frame, like nah you guys were actually wrong and boom it's done. Does this happen? Serious question for any law scholars here.
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I assume there has to be a case. Which I think would require legislature to pass a law against gay marriage? And then for a gay couple to sue the government?

I think that issue is dead. I hope it is. It would be devastating if not.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
What's the precedent for rolling back things like gay marriage? Since the courts operate within the framework of the law how does something that granted rights to people get repealed especially within such a short time frame, like nah you guys were actually wrong and boom it's done. Does this happen? Serious question for any law scholars here.
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Nationally and locally, this GOP coalition has the power to get the Constitution amended. Not saying that they will, but that they could.
 
Shooshmoo said:
Meanwhile, we get to listen to these folks calling people the n-word, faggots, libtards, terrorists, child-killers, etc.
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The way liberals see themselves and the people they disagree with is amazing. Why I enjoy reading the tunnels
 
Shooshmoo said:
Meanwhile, we get to listen to these folks calling people the n-word, faggots, libtards, terrorists, baby-killers, etc.
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The vast majority of people who vote Republican do not use those terms. Come on.

I am not saying there aren't racist, homophobic, sexist, privileged, bigoted people out there. I am saying the generalizations used by liberals are very destructive to their own cause. First, there are plenty of people who vote Republican for economic or defense issues and do not care about the social platform or disagree with it outright. Second, those who do align with the Republican social platform are just going to double-down in the face of that sort of criticism.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
The party who blames women for being sexually assaulted blames Democrats for making them vote for Donald Trump
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If you don't think that post is true, you weren't paying attention last night. It's certainly not the only reason, but you are completely tone deaf if you don't see any truth in that statement.
 
WFU Lurker said:
The vast majority of people who vote Republican do not use those terms. Come on.

I am not saying there aren't racist, homophobic, sexist, privileged, bigoted people out there. I am saying the generalizations used by liberals are very destructive to their own cause. First, there are plenty of people who vote Republican for economic or defense issues and do not care about the social platform or disagree with it outright. Second, those who do align with the Republican social platform are just going to double-down in the face of that sort of criticism.
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But Trump didn't run on traditionally conservative economic or defense platforms. That's the thing that I find interesting. You're 100% right that a majority of people supporting trump aren't bigots, but many are unwilling to acknowledge that bigots are certainly an active part of his coalition.
 
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Deacfreak07 said:
But Trump didn't run on traditionally conservative economic or defense platforms. That's the thing that I find interesting. You're 100% right that a majority of people supporting trump are bigots, but many are unwilling to acknowledge that bigots are certainly an active part of his coalition.
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I did not say that. Some did. Not even close to a majority.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
But Trump didn't run on traditionally conservative economic or defense platforms. That's the thing that I find interesting. You're 100% right that a majority of people supporting trump are bigots, but many are unwilling to acknowledge that bigots are certainly an active part of his coalition.
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No shit. The issue that he's talking about is that there were a shitload of people that voted Trump yesterday because they were lumped into one of those categories by broad, demonizing generalizations by pundits, media, and Hillary/Bernie supporters. Look no further than the last year and a half of political discourse on this board. Those same people voted yesterday, right or wrong, as a fuck you.
 
DG3 said:
No shit. The issue that he's talking about is that there were a shitload of people that voted Trump yesterday because they were lumped into one of those categories by broad, demonizing generalizations by pundits, media, and Hillary/Bernie supporters. Look no further than the last year and a half of political discourse on this board. Those same people voted yesterday, right or wrong, as a fuck you.
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I'll show you assholes I'm not a bigot! I'm gonna vote for Donald Trump. That'll show em!
 
DG3 said:
If you don't think that post is true, you weren't paying attention last night. It's certainly not the only reason, but you are completely tone deaf if you don't see any truth in that statement.
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So you think that Trump's turnout was because people in the sticks were called bad names before the campaign process started? All these people who suddenly had a guy to rally around were just itching to vote in early 2015?
 
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