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Omnibus Bowl Projections Thread - Belk Bowl

Don't think people have a handle on how pathetic the SEC was this year outside of the two Alabama teams and UGA (LSU was OK, and S. Carolina was mediocre). Missou ran it up on a series of terrible teams (Idaho, UCONN, Florida - yes Florida was terrible, Tennessee after they stopped caring, Vandy and Arkansas when Bielema was deadman coaching). Against S. Carolina, Purdue, Auburn and UGA Missou averaged 14 ppg. Anything can happen in one game, but completely whacked to think that WF would be a big dog to Missou.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
I bet tosu gets in the playoff if they win the BIG.
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They might, but they shouldn't. They got skulldrug by a 5 win Iowa team and beatdown by Oklahoma in Columbus. Winning the Big10 title shouldn't make up for that since it would be because they beat a Wisconsin team nobody has respected all year anyway.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
I bet tosu gets in the playoff if they win the BIG.
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It will be interesting to see. OSU and Bama get a lot of love, usually. I just can't put in a team that gave up 55 points to an unranked Iowa team over Bama.
 
And the committee already showed, last year, they don't care about the Big 10 championship if you have a bad loss, like Penn St.
 
SDeacz said:
It will be interesting to see. OSU and Bama get a lot of love, usually. I just can't put in a team that gave up 55 points to an unranked Iowa team over Bama.
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Yeah, I mean I'm not crazy about a Bama team getting in that didn't even make their conference title game, but I'd put them in over OSU. You can't lose like they did against Iowa and then have another loss and get in, you shouldn't anyway.

I may be wrong, but I've got a feeling Wisconsin will be very focused to prove they belong in the playoff by beating OSU, so hopefully OSU won't even be an option.
 
OSU and Bama, both have 3 top 25 wins. Both lost to a Final 4 team (Bama on the road, OSU at home). Bama also beat a 6-6 FSU team, but they played them when they were 3 in the country and had their starting QB. That Iowa 31 point loss is a huge difference.
 
SDeacz said:
And the committee already showed, last year, they don't care about the Big 10 championship if you have a bad loss, like Penn St.
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Right, but they took a Big 10 team. Leaving out the Big 10, and taking two teams from a horrible SEC would also be pretty controversial. Bad losses aside, OSU would have 2 top 10 wins and an absolute drubbing of MSU, which would be on par with Bama's best win all year, in LSU. Basically, it depends how much the committee values bad losses vs. good wins.

2017 Bama is very similar to 2015 OSU, who ended up 7th in the final standings, and behind a 2 loss Stanford conference champion.
 
The problem is that those in the committee without an SEC bent will not want a Power V conference to get two bids as that means that two conferences get left out of the party. Yes, a conference champ was left out last year, but it was left out in favor of another team from the same conference. It would take an unusual circumstance for the committee to allow two from the same conference in. Unless the Big 10 CG win is unbelievably unimpressive, like 13-12 on a controversial call, would guess that tOSU would get the nod over Alabama if the Buckeyes win the Big 10 title with a win over unbeaten Wisconsin (who is starting to get more respect).

Really hurts Bama that FSU ended up sucking this year, that Miss. State lost to Ole Miss (as Miss. State was Bama's best road win), and the rest of the SEC sucked.
 
wsc8521s said:
Things that would help our prospects to get one of the better bowls (besides winning more games):

*ACC team makes the CFP (pretty obvious)
*Notre Dame makes a New Year's Six Bowl/the CFP (seems highly likely at this point. But if they don't they fall into the ACC's bowl process and bump Wake further down the line. Also would be better if someone besides the Orange Bowl picks ND)
*Georgia and Alabama both make the CFP (opens the door for the Orange Bowl to pick a Big Ten team, which creates a spot in the Cap One Bowl for an ACC team)

Or in other words, it'd be fantastic if the rankings stayed exactly as they are now
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Why to the bolded point? An ACC team will go to Orange Bowl regardless. ND can't take ACC spot, but they can play the ACC in orange bowl. That seems like it would be a great scenario to keep them out of tier 1 bowls.
 
tigerswood said:
2017 Bama is very similar to 2015 OSU, who ended up 7th in the final standings, and behind a 2 loss Stanford conference champion.
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A lot more 0 and 1-loss teams that year though.

And OSU lost @ home and looked bad doing it, while 'bama had to go on the road to play the same team that beat another Top 6 team by 30
 
SDeacz said:
Why to the bolded point? An ACC team will go to Orange Bowl regardless. ND can't take ACC spot, but they can play the ACC in orange bowl. That seems like it would be a great scenario to keep them out of tier 1 bowls.
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It's moot now because Notre Dame isn't going to finish ahead of eligible Big Ten or SEC teams, but it's better for a Big Ten team to play an ACC team in the OB than ND b/c it frees up a spot in the Citrus
 
wsc8521s said:
A lot more 0 and 1-loss teams that year though.

And OSU lost @ home and looked bad doing it, while 'bama had to go on the road to play the same team that beat another Top 6 team by 30
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2015 OSU lost by 3 to a playoff team ranked in the top 10 at the time of the game (and who had beaten top 10 Oregon earlier that year)
 
Deacfreak07 said:
tosu isn’t penn state. Brand matters in college athletics.
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The sooner we accept the fact that the NCAA is a business above all else, the sooner we can start paying players, stop being surprised by things like U*NC not actually having classes, and OSU irrationally being selected to football playoffs.
 
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thatguy2016 said:
2015 OSU lost by 3 to a playoff team ranked in the top 10 at the time of the game (and who had beaten top 10 Oregon earlier that year)
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In a ridiculous bad weather game, on a last second FG, when their best player (Zeke) had been in the hospital all week before the game. Would have been awesome to see them play Clemson and/or Bama that year. The 2015 team was probably better than the 2014 team, and light years better than 2016.
 
I think Pilchard's point matters the most

it would be tough for the committee, of which the SEC representation is a small percentage, to give half the playoff spots to the SEC at the expense of two other Power 5 conferences

not to mention Alabama melted down in their last impression

we should have "third place Saturday" games at noon this weekend featuring some combination of Alabama, Ok St, Penn St, Notre Dame, Washington (maybe let UCF out of their conference champ game to play)

I kid (mostly)
 
Also, did not realize that, while OSU got in last year as the first non-conf champ (and was obviously exposed), they played 4 teams in the final top 10 of the rankings, and went 3-1 against those teams. Bama has played 1 this year. They lost.
 
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