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Virginia @ Wake Forest Game Thread

Bubble Boy said:
That is one of my pet peeves - intentionally fouling without making any attempt to get the ball. I don't get why you don't just do whatever it takes to get the ball. Worse case is you called for a foul, which is what you were trying to do anyway. Best case is you actually get the ball and don't get called for a foul.
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If you are at a point where putting them on the line is the only chance, you just have to foul quickly, but with 1:30 or so to go, you foul trying to get a steal.
 
Ayo said:
I think the booing was because there were some (loud) UVA fans cheering.
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I was wondering that, but it started when DM decided the game was over with about 20 sec left and stopped fouling.
 
Crawford is 36-102 in the last 6 games. For comparison, Childress is 3rd on the team in FGA with 134. We have played 19 games.
 
It didn't much matter at that point but the foul management was simply incorrect time, who when, just incorrect
 
PhDeac said:
We got 5 pts, 5 reb, 5 fouls in 51 min from Thompson, Mitchell, and Sarr. Thompson contributed 1 foul to that.

We are getting nothing from the PF spot.
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This is the real problem. You can read through post game threads after all of our games and posters want more Sarr after one game, more Mitchell after another. They combined to shoot 14% tonight. Thompson doesn't do anything well but he also doesn't make the huge fuckups those two do.

So in every game we're essentially playing 4 on 5. UVA doubled Moore on ever touch. Given that scenario, we're simply not going to beat the #2 team in the country with Crawford shooting 0% from deep and Keshawn shooting 0% for the game. Throw in Wilbekin making no field goals in the entire 2nd half and we're dead in the water.

Just quote those stats beforehand and tell me whether you'd guess we'd be down 5 at the 4 minute mark.

Wake held them to their 2nd lowest point total of the year - honestly the defensive scheme and effort was excellent. Manning may well be pulling all the wrong strings so far this year, but it might be like choosing the hottest girl on the softball team. 4 guard lineup, loser. More Thompson, loser. More Sarr, loser. More Mitchell, loser. The player who gets shit on the most had the best game of any guard tonight - Childress. Even if Manning is a poor in-game coach, the solution to this Wake team - if there is one - is not easy.
 
Just saw the score. Pretty much what I was expecting. Tuesday is our super bowl.
 
simply can't win in the ACC with zero NBA starters. we had one last year and snuck in the tourney.
its always been that simple.
 
olddeac said:
simply can't win in the ACC with zero NBA starters. we had one last year and snuck in the tourney.
its always been that simple.
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So, this has absolutely nothing to do with coaching. We just don't have enough NBA players. Check. Got it!
 
coredeac said:
So, this has absolutely nothing to do with coaching. We just don't have enough NBA players. Check. Got it!
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no our coaches suck big time. Tons of shitty college coaches winning with NBA talent though.
 
olddeac said:
no our coaches suck big time. Tons of shitty college coaches winning with NBA talent though.
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I'm not sure this staff could win with Lebron James but I do see your point with this post. Wasn't clear earlier.
 
DCDeac said:
This is the real problem. You can read through post game threads after all of our games and posters want more Sarr after one game, more Mitchell after another. They combined to shoot 14% tonight. Thompson doesn't do anything well but he also doesn't make the huge fuckups those two do.

So in every game we're essentially playing 4 on 5. UVA doubled Moore on ever touch. Given that scenario, we're simply not going to beat the #2 team in the country with Crawford shooting 0% from deep and Keshawn shooting 0% for the game. Throw in Wilbekin making no field goals in the entire 2nd half and we're dead in the water.

Just quote those stats beforehand and tell me whether you'd guess we'd be down 5 at the 4 minute mark.

Wake held them to their 2nd lowest point total of the year - honestly the defensive scheme and effort was excellent. Manning may well be pulling all the wrong strings so far this year, but it might be like choosing the hottest girl on the softball team. 4 guard lineup, loser. More Thompson, loser. More Sarr, loser. More Mitchell, loser. The player who gets shit on the most had the best game of any guard tonight - Childress. Even if Manning is a poor in-game coach, the solution to this Wake team - if there is one - is not easy.
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Exactly.

I love Sarr’s upside, but he makes mistakes in bunches.

Mitchell versus Deandre Hunter of UVA. Hunter is a PF/C and Mitchell is not strong enough yet.
 
Strickland33 said:
Prediction: the sunshine brigade will blame the players and suggest that not even John Wooden could have won with this group after losing Dinos and JC. Manning just has to hold out for next year's class and we're a guaranteed top-15 team.
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All of that talent we lost from a team that barely made the post season...
 
Strickland33 said:
Prediction: the sunshine brigade will blame the players and suggest that not even John Wooden could have won with this group after losing Dinos and JC. Manning just has to hold out for next year's class and we're a guaranteed top-15 team.
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This is good!
 
I listened on the radio. Sounded like the story of this season. Winnable game, choked away in the final minutes with poor turnovers or bad shots (sounded like Crawford was a culprit once again).

Can’t say I am surprised but If Manning doesn’t figure out how to get a win at some point recruits may start to scare off. I obviously couldn’t see but it sounded like around the 8-12 minute mark we had several open threes that we didn’t hit that would have given us a 5-8 point lead st that point. Virginia hit the 2 chances they had coming out of the 8 minute timeout and that was the difference.

Crawford 4-12 with six turnovers. Key 0-3. Wilbekin hit a few in the first half but was non existent in the second half.

Just sucks. I hate losing.
 
PhDeac said:
Probably because we started fouling down 6 with 1:30 left. Fouled their best FT shooter twice and didn’t score another point.

Or they took Wake +9.5.
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Dumbest strategy yet for DM. Get a stop and we have a chance to cut it to three with 1:20 or so left. Crawford fouled Hall on his own and then DM orders an intentional on Hall with 1:30 left. We have no chance in close games with Crawford on the court and DM on the bench. Dumb coach and anti-clutch player.
 
After watching the game tonight, a couple of thoughts. I think Woods is more seriously hurt than we have been told or at least that I have heard. He was never quick but he seems to really be struggling now and I wonder if he does not have a torn MCL or something like that. He cannot even get a shot off at this point. Thompson, Sarr and Mitchell did not give us much tonight as has been well documented. Unfortunately for Thompson he is a senior and it is now time to play the younger guys including SJM and see who improves with PT. Brandon played a nice game tonight and it was nice to see Chaundee get a little more run but I would like to see Melo get some time when he goes out. This team must get a complete game out of Bryant or we have no chance of winning and I think he is just pressing so much right now that he is incapable of giving that to us right now. Does not get any easier with Duke, Louisville and Clemson on the horizon.
 
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