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Danny Manning Credibility Watch

donaldross said:
It's a bad decision for UNCG to play some of their home games there. And I've told them that.

Ya'll are obsessed. As I've said, I get it. My views bother you--because they're right.
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Your golf game bothers me, especially given your username.
 
This team has never been the same since Dave left for USC. Should have done more to keep him in WS and happy.
 
Deaconblue said:
Pat Kelsey to Wake would have some interesting dynamics.

How would Pat feel about coming back and coaching the very team his mentor, Skip Prosser was coaching when Skip had his heart attack and died? I believe that Pat took some time away from coaching after that.

Would he just flat out refuse, not wanting to be back in the place where his mentor died?

Would he come to Wake and work extremely hard to make his mentor proud and "finish" the vow of Skip "We're going to be good again."

Or, would he get to Wake, thinking he was going to bring Wake back to where Skip had Wake in his best days and find the emotions too overwhelming to really get it done?

As an added note, this past fall Pat Kelsey signed a five year extension through 2022 with Winthrop.
He had the messy acceptance then rejection of the UMass coaching job last spring. I don't think he would leave Winthrop very soon after that escapade.
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I suspect he won't have any offers for a while. Parallels to the Josh Mcdaniels situation (exception worse since Kelsey signed a contract): http://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/i...daniels-following-return-new-england-patriots
 
WFU Lurker said:
I suspect he won't have any offers for a while. Parallels to the Josh Mcdaniels situation (exception worse since Kelsey signed a contract): http://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/i...daniels-following-return-new-england-patriots
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Kelsey found folks cheating at UMass which is why he switched. That's well known so I suspect you are wrong--but hope you are right since I want him.

And for those in the peanut gallery hankering to give me 15 shots this spring, I'm ready. (index is presently 9.2 after struggles down in Jupiter this winter)
 
Joel Justus for next WFU head coach. Grew up in the program, Mt. Tabor kid, played at UNC-W, current assistant coach at Kentucky. Lives and breathes basketball. The future is now. My tax returns will be in by April 15th.

Damn, I can do this Donaldross stuff too.
 
donaldross said:
Kelsey found folks cheating at UMass which is why he switched. That's well known so I suspect you are wrong--but hope you are right since I want him.

And for those in the peanut gallery hankering to give me 15 shots this spring, I'm ready. (index is presently 9.2 after struggles down in Jupiter this winter)
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Yeah, that feels like something you just made up.

In his 3 hours on the UMass campus he discovered cheating? Maybe he should be a PI.

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I think Danny Manning is doing a really good job of finding talent and developing talent. However, I don’t think he is a great in-game adjustments guy. These are not new observations, obviously. But I was thinking about this after the Syracuse game, and I think Danny’s issue is the following:

• As an ex-NBA player, when he teaches and coaches guys who are below average to above average college players, he simply accepts mistakes. It is like he chalks it up to the fact that they are not future NBA players. This seems to allow him to accept mental mistakes and so far has meant we have teams that lack elite or even solid intensity. Crawford is intense, but that seems to cause half his mental mistakes. Then, he backs off and makes lazy mistakes.
• That said, if you are a borderline NBA talent, Manning is a good coach to play for. He knows what NBA players need development-wise. For example, Oliver Sarr. He could have played him only at the 5 all year long, but he has let him play the stretch 4 to almost no success on the offensive end because that is going to help Sarr get to the next level. It has helped on Defense btw, but hurts us on offense.

I started to compare him to our recent history of coaches, and came up with the following pro/con list:

Dave Odom – Pros: Developed talent across the board, everyone improved with some exceptions, coached mistake free basketball and solid D. Cons: Weak recruiter with some obvious exceptions; Did not embrace the challenge of recruiting to Wake but instead, used it as a crutch

Coach Prosser – Pros: Great life coach, great recruiter, exciting program leader. Consistent. Each year, our experience and talent dictated wins and losses. We seemed to win every game we should have and lost those we weren’t favored. Cons: Not a great in-game adjustments guy. No track record of getting players ready for the NBA. With the exception of Josh Howard, I think while a good coach – player improved under him, he was not great at getting a borderline NBA talent better. In other words, Justin Gray and Big E didn’t develop into NBA players by learning a necessary missing skill – range for Big E and point guard skills for Justin. Ditto for LD and Strick. You could easily argue that none of those guys were NBA players, but …

Dino – See Prosser minus the Great Life coach skill.

Coach Bzd – Pros: Knows basketball real good Cons: Knows people less good

Coach Manning – Pros: Workmanlike coach and recruiter, finds hidden talent, develops NBA talent into NBA players Cons: Not yet a good in-game coach; Doesn’t develop non-NBA talent well, accepts mistakes as part of the package with flawed players.
 
donaldross said:
Kelsey found folks cheating at UMass which is why he switched. That's well known so I suspect you are wrong--but hope you are right since I want him.

And for those in the peanut gallery hankering to give me 15 shots this spring, I'm ready. (index is presently 9.2 after struggles down in Jupiter this winter)
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Why would anyone give a self-professed #winner, with a user name of donaldross and plenty of time to play, any shots? Let's play straight up for Deacon Tower season tickets for life! I'm merely a #loser who can typically only play on weekends.
 
tigerswood said:
Why would anyone give a self-professed #winner, with a user name of donaldross and plenty of time to play, any shots? Let's play straight up for Deacon Tower season tickets for life! I'm merely a #loser who can typically only play on weekends.
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I only go for low hanging fruit in biz deals. There’s plenty of it. #Winning.
 
if Wes is the next Coach K why hasn't anyone snapped him up yet? Is the boy genius holding out for when Ol Roy hangs 'em up since surely he's at the top of the Chapel Hill shortlist?
 
tvcigar said:
Joel Justus for next WFU head coach. Grew up in the program, Mt. Tabor kid, played at UNC-W, current assistant coach at Kentucky. Lives and breathes basketball. The future is now. My tax returns will be in by April 15th.

Damn, I can do this Donaldross stuff too.
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John's son, I take it?
 
CreamyGoodness said:
See you guys in 40 years on the futuristic OGB to see who made the right call!
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I am seriously concerned for DR. It's like he has forgotten that being an internet troll is supposed to be a joke and not integrated into ones personality. I think moonz needs to have a sit down with him and explain the rules.
 
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