Lectro was RIGHT--post1626--(climate related)
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Is the premise behind that approach "conflict encourages innovation?" So we are now at least admitting that it will be a problem, but saying we will be prepared to deal with it through...our dismantling of the EPA? Given the ever lasting effects of global warming, it certainly seems like a better idea to be prudent and preemptive instead of waiting for the problem to happen then banking on technology to bail us out.
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Ugh terrible article. Let’s fuck it up because they will be able to fix it later...horse shit. There is no guarantee of anything in the future. In the 60s they said we would have flying cars by 2000, still waiting. It is irresponsible to have as little regard for your home, where you live, where you children will live and where we get our food (land or water).
Maybe my Eagle Scout and avid hiker/camper attitude means more to me than allowing corporations to get a little extra scratch. I think most people would agree. I am not a fan of regulation but corporation can’t be trusted and it is a shame that the USA is the ass of the world on environmental protections.
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It’s interesting that the rubes are anti-science, facts, and intellect but then will turn around and claim smart people will figure it out so why worry. Rube Lectro hoping to be saved by his betters.
Horeshit.
You Socialists just don’t quit. You roll over and into one failed argument after another and no matter how spectacularly shit fails you just prove the dictum of Insanity. You brush yourselves off and get back up and do it all over again. 😂
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The other environmental scare from the 1960s was that the world would run out of resources. But resources just refuse to run out. The 1980s came and went without the famines that were supposed to starve tens of millions of Americans and billions of people worldwide. Then the year 1992 passed and, contrary to projections from the 1972 bestseller The Limits to Growth, the world did not exhaust its aluminum, copper, chromium, gold, nickel, tin, tungsten, or zinc. In 2013 the Atlantic ran a cover story about the fracking revolution entitled “We Will Never Run Out of Oil.” Humanity does not suck resources from the earth like a straw in a milkshake until a gurgle tells it that the container is empty. Instead, as the most easily extracted supply of a resource becomes scarcer, its price rises, encouraging people to conserve it, get at the less accessible deposits, or find cheaper and more plentiful substitutes.
A naive faith in stasis has repeatedly led to prophecies of environmental doomsdays that never happened.
Indeed, it’s a fallacy to think that people “need resources” in the first place.[5] They need ways of growing food, moving around, lighting their homes, and displaying information. They satisfy these needs with ideas: with recipes, formulas, techniques, blueprints, and algorithms for manipulating the physical world to give them what they want. The human mind, with its recursive combinatorial power, can explore an infinite space of ideas, and is not limited by the quantity of any particular kind of stuff in the ground. When one idea no longer works, another can take its place.
Take the supply of food, which has grown exponentially even though no single method of growing it has ever been sustainable. In The Big Ratchet: How Humanity Thrives in the Face of Natural Crisis, the geographer Ruth DeFries describes the sequence as “ratchet-hatchet-pivot.” People discover a way of growing more food, and the population ratchets upward. The method fails to keep up with demand or develops unpleasant side effects, and the hatchet falls. People then pivot to a new method. At various times, farmers have pivoted to slash-and-burn horticulture, night soil (a euphemism for human feces), crop rotation, guano, saltpeter, ground-up bison bones, chemical fertilizer, hybrid crops, pesticides, and the Green Revolution.[6] Future pivots may include genetically modified organisms, hydroponics, aeroponics, urban vertical farms, robotic harvesting, meat cultured in vitro, artificial-intelligence algorithms fed by GPS and biosensors, the recovery of energy and fertilizer from sewage, aquaculture with fish that eat tofu, and who knows what else — as long as people are allowed to indulge their ingenuity.[7]
2.
Again and again, environmental improvements once deemed impossible have taken place. Since 1970, when the Environmental Protection Agency was established, the United States has slashed its emissions of five air pollutants by almost two-thirds. Over the same period, the population grew by more than 40 percent, and those people drove twice as many miles and became two and a half times richer. Energy use has leveled off, and even carbon dioxide emissions have turned a corner. These diverging curves refute both the left-wing claim that only degrowth can curb pollution and the right-wing claim that environmental protection must sabotage economic growth and standard of living.
Figure 2: Pollution, energy, and growth, United States, 1970–2015
The other environmental scare from the 1960s was that the world would run out of resources. But resources just refuse to run out. The 1980s came and went without the famines that were supposed to starve tens of millions of Americans and billions of people worldwide. Then the year 1992 passed and, contrary to projections from the 1972 bestseller The Limits to Growth, the world did not exhaust its aluminum, copper, chromium, gold, nickel, tin, tungsten, or zinc. In 2013 the Atlantic ran a cover story about the fracking revolution entitled “We Will Never Run Out of Oil.” Humanity does not suck resources from the earth like a straw in a milkshake until a gurgle tells it that the container is empty. Instead, as the most easily extracted supply of a resource becomes scarcer, its price rises, encouraging people to conserve it, get at the less accessible deposits, or find cheaper and more plentiful substitutes.
A naive faith in stasis has repeatedly led to prophecies of environmental doomsdays that never happened.
Indeed, it’s a fallacy to think that people “need resources” in the first place.[5] They need ways of growing food, moving around, lighting their homes, and displaying information. They satisfy these needs with ideas: with recipes, formulas, techniques, blueprints, and algorithms for manipulating the physical world to give them what they want. The human mind, with its recursive combinatorial power, can explore an infinite space of ideas, and is not limited by the quantity of any particular kind of stuff in the ground. When one idea no longer works, another can take its place.
Take the supply of food, which has grown exponentially even though no single method of growing it has ever been sustainable. In The Big Ratchet: How Humanity Thrives in the Face of Natural Crisis, the geographer Ruth DeFries describes the sequence as “ratchet-hatchet-pivot.” People discover a way of growing more food, and the population ratchets upward. The method fails to keep up with demand or develops unpleasant side effects, and the hatchet falls. People then pivot to a new method. At various times, farmers have pivoted to slash-and-burn horticulture, night soil (a euphemism for human feces), crop rotation, guano, saltpeter, ground-up bison bones, chemical fertilizer, hybrid crops, pesticides, and the Green Revolution.[6] Future pivots may include genetically modified organisms, hydroponics, aeroponics, urban vertical farms, robotic harvesting, meat cultured in vitro, artificial-intelligence algorithms fed by GPS and biosensors, the recovery of energy and fertilizer from sewage, aquaculture with fish that eat tofu, and who knows what else — as long as people are allowed to indulge their ingenuity.[7]
2.
Again and again, environmental improvements once deemed impossible have taken place. Since 1970, when the Environmental Protection Agency was established, the United States has slashed its emissions of five air pollutants by almost two-thirds. Over the same period, the population grew by more than 40 percent, and those people drove twice as many miles and became two and a half times richer. Energy use has leveled off, and even carbon dioxide emissions have turned a corner. These diverging curves refute both the left-wing claim that only degrowth can curb pollution and the right-wing claim that environmental protection must sabotage economic growth and standard of living.
Figure 2: Pollution, energy, and growth, United States, 1970–2015
The crazy thing is the renewable energy sector added more jobs in 2017 than the entire coal industry currently employs. It really makes sense to try to stifle an industry that's had sustained, explosive growth over one that is dying.
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Posted the article for you. One in six deaths linked to pollution. You won’t read it because it contradicts your views...and reading, it helps if you know how.
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Fear and Loathing are the only constant truths you Left wing whacks have to lean on. Drones gotta drone.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...pompeo-climate-change-skeptic-energy-realist/
Mike Pompeo..right man for the job! “Climate” skeptic
MAGA
Mike Pompeo..right man for the job! “Climate” skeptic
MAGA
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Box of rocks
Failed Bag of Hammers and Sickles
“Horse Shit”, is the public’s response to you eco-bats
ImTheCaptain
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which is why we listen to scientists and not rubes
Fear and Alarmism are not Scientific, Rising Rooster 🌊 🐔
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"More than 260,000 Americans are employed by the domestic solar industry — three times as many workers as employed by the entire coal mining industry."
More jobs (and high paying jobs)=bigger market=America has spoken
More jobs (and high paying jobs)=bigger market=America has spoken
And mostly pumping Sunshine ☀️ up your butt
Many home improvement industries have become synonymous with smarmy, sharp-suited salespeople and their underhand sales tactics. Unfortunately, the renewable energy industry is no exception and you will find these people selling solar panels, wind turbines, heat pumps, biomass boilers and more besides.
If you have already had quotes for solar panels, then it is very likely that you have met one or more of these characters. Despite assuring you otherwise, sales representatives work for commission and they will say and do anything they can to get your order before they leave your house. They will prey on your British politeness and you need to keep your wits about you. Many of these people are very good at what they do and if they weren’t charming they wouldn’t be in sales.
I have listed their most common misdemeanours below. Always remember that they are there because you have invited them in. You are quite within your rights to tell them to leave. If they try any of the following then show them the door:
Over-staying their welcome – You may find that the salesperson stays in your house for several hours for their sales presentation. This has two goals. Firstly, lots of people sign a contract just to make the sales representative go away. Secondly, it is to make you reluctant to invite any rival companies to quote, in case you have to put up with the same behaviour all over again.
Pressurising you to sign a contract – You should never, ever, sign a contract or write a deposit cheque at the initial appointment. They may claim that they have a special offer that will expire that day and will never be repeated, or that their materials are in short supply. They may also highlight a forthcoming Feed in Tariff change. Try to see through any approach that they use to try to make you put pen to paper. Take your time and don’t make any decisions until they’ve left your home. Make sure that the first thing you tell them is that you won’t be signing anything today.
Offering a high initial price, then dropping it – This is the very height of disrespect for the customer. The sales rep knows how much a sensible price for a system is. They will get a certain amount of commission for selling at a reasonable price. However, they will also get a percentage of every extra pound that they can get out of you. They will often keep reducing the price and gauging your response. A reputable company will offer a fair price from the outset.
Phoning their “boss” to get you a discount – Sometimes a sales rep will make a show of calling their office to try to get you a discount. This is a pantomime that they try with every customer. If you don’t sign up with them during the appointment then you may even get a call from their “boss” after they have left to try to get you to commit. Don’t be fooled by their games!
Telling half-truths and untruths – This one can be hard to spot because you are very likely buying solar panels for the first time, so may have limited knowledge of the subject. Salespeople will use this as a weakness and tell you all manner of lies to sell their products to you. There is a summary below of the most common of these.