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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

Shooshmoo said:
I'm not sure she's a "progessive prosecutor" but she is otherwise absolutely right in that segment you quoted.
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Some of her actions that i've pointed out are objectively wrong and apolitical. They can't just be dismissed as natural inclinations of a conservative profession.
 
Shooshmoo said:
I'm not sure she's a "progessive prosecutor" but she is otherwise absolutely right in that segment you quoted.
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I don't agree with her sentiment and think its borderline copaganda. So, no she is not "absolutely right."
 
Strickland33 said:
Yeah and that’s why you shouldn’t make it even easier for the Junebug’s of the world to fall into line by not encouraging vetting candidates’ records.

I seem to recall the failed coronation of Clinton as a good example of this phenomenon.
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Hillary was overvetted.
 
You diagree with these things:

“I know that most police officers deserve to be proud of their public service and commended for the way they do their jobs,” Harris writes in “The Truths We Hold.” ‘’I know how difficult and dangerous the job is, day in and day out, and I know how hard it is for the officers’ families, who have to wonder if the person they love will be coming home at the end of each shift.”


But, she continues, “I also know this: it is a false choice to suggest you must either be for the police or for police accountability. I am for both. Most people I know are for both. Let’s speak some truth about that, too.”
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Some of her actions that i've pointed out are objectively wrong and apolitical. They can't just be dismissed as natural inclinations of a conservative profession.
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No one did that (at least I didn't) -- I just agree with what she said in what MHB quoted.
 
Shooshmoo said:
You diagree with these things:

“I know that most police officers deserve to be proud of their public service and commended for the way they do their jobs,” Harris writes in “The Truths We Hold.” ‘’I know how difficult and dangerous the job is, day in and day out, and I know how hard it is for the officers’ families, who have to wonder if the person they love will be coming home at the end of each shift.”


But, she continues, “I also know this: it is a false choice to suggest you must either be for the police or for police accountability. I am for both. Most people I know are for both. Let’s speak some truth about that, too.”
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I'm not going to get on board with some "all cops are evil racist pigs" sentiment, as I think it's bullshit and counterproductive.
 
PhDeac said:
Hillary was overvetted.
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Yeah, especially on Benghazi. I also think she did herself more harm than good by reversing herself on free trade and the TPP. If there was anyone undervetted, it was Bernie. Hillary did not challenge him on any of his positions, though she and her cronies did attempt to make the primary process as unfair as they could. I don't see Tulsi letting Bernie slide in 2020 like Hillary did in 2016. Think we'll see some rather vigorous Dem debates next time around.
 
Shooshmoo said:
You diagree with these things:

“I know that most police officers deserve to be proud of their public service and commended for the way they do their jobs,” Harris writes in “The Truths We Hold.” ‘’I know how difficult and dangerous the job is, day in and day out, and I know how hard it is for the officers’ families, who have to wonder if the person they love will be coming home at the end of each shift.”


But, she continues, “I also know this: it is a false choice to suggest you must either be for the police or for police accountability. I am for both. Most people I know are for both. Let’s speak some truth about that, too.”
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I disagree with this statement and I don’t think all (or even most) cops are “evil racist pigs”.
 
RChildress107 said:
I disagree with this statement and I don’t think all (or even most) cops are “evil racist pigs”.
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Ooof. Ok. Most is more than 50% -- so you think 50% or fewer police officers should be proud of their public service and do their jobs the right way. I can't get on board with that.
 
Shooshmoo said:
Ooof. Ok. Most is more than 50% -- so you think 50% or fewer police officers should be proud of their public service and do their jobs the right way. I can't get on board with that.
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I don't think any police officers should be proud of their "public service" because I don't believe the institution of policing as a public service should exist.
 
MHBDemon said:
I don't think any police officers should be proud of their "public service" because I don't believe the institution of policing as a public service should exist.
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You’ve completely lost me with this one, Clark.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
what are his trade flaws?
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He's essentially a protectionist, anti-free trade agreements, pro tariffs, etc. I think he genuinely means well and wants to help people, but while those kind of policies may theoretically help prop up small groups of workers in dying industries in the short run, they ultimately hurt everyone in the long run, imo.
 
MHBDemon said:
I don't think any police officers should be proud of their "public service" because I don't believe the institution of policing as a public service should exist.
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PhDeac said:
Worse how?
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added nothing, unremarkable record (if anything he was a male Clinton), no charisma, borderline offensive pandering to non-white voters, lack of self-awareness when it came to said pandering, no lips

Somebody brought up Edwards and I think that Edwards was definitely worse, though, so I'll take the L on this one.
 
tiltdeac said:
He's essentially a protectionist, anti-free trade agreements, pro tariffs, etc. I think he genuinely means well and wants to help people, but while those kind of policies may theoretically help prop up small groups of workers in dying industries in the short run, they ultimately hurt everyone in the long run, imo.
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So he is a horrible candidate, absolutely no place in America for that kind of populist economics. The one good thing Trump has done is help move democrats more to free trade over fair trade.
 
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