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Sutton Sports Performance Center Catches Fire At Wake Forest University

Junebug said:
I’m just spitballing here, but because she was a sweetheart of a frat that displayed it in their yearbook picture?
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So then why was she the sweetheart of a frat that would display it in their yearbook picture?

You're treating the Confederate flag like a neutral decoration or a white wall in the background instead of a symbol that represents the values of the people taking the picture. I don't think the Confederate flag just hung on the Benson steps back in those days.
 
PhDeac said:
So then why was she the sweetheart of a frat that would display it in their yearbook picture?

You're treating the Confederate flag like a neutral decoration or a white wall in the background instead of a symbol that represents the values of the people taking the picture. I don't think the Confederate flag just hung on the Benson steps back in those days.
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This is exactly how we saw it. I know you don't believe us, but that's why we are going in circles.
 
I suspect that every KA annual group photo had the flag in it until sometime in the early 90s.
 
I honestly can’t remember what I thought about the confederate flag when I was growing up in the south as far as “is this a racist symbol” or not. But I certainly remember a stigma around it and that most people with confederate flag gear were rednecks.
 
I feel like 19deac92 is gearing up to tell a story in which one of the black people he knows told him there was nothing wrong with the Confederate flag.

If someone told a bunch of 1982 fraternity members to take a picture in front of the 1982 UNC National Championship banner, I’m sure they wouldn’t do it because of their loyalty to Wake. Not sure why the Confederate flag is better.
 
DeacDiggler said:
This is exactly how we saw it. I know you don't believe us, but that's why we are going in circles.
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Then why pull it out and hang it up to take a picture with it? Obviously it was important enough to go through the hassle.
 
From this link: https://triad-city-beat.com/wake-forest-university-frat-confederacy/

As a national fraternity, Kappa Alpha has distanced itself from some of this overt past. In 2001, the group banned all visual displays of “the Confederate Battle Flag,” including from chapter buildings, member clothing, and websites. Apparently in 2010, they felt the need to clarify, explicitly barring Confederate uniforms or participation in a parade where Confederate uniforms are worn. In 2016, the national organization blocked chapters from using “Old South” terminology, as they had for decades.
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The KAs aren’t the only Wake Forest University frat to include racially incendiary material on their pages of the Howler —an image on the 1976 page of Sigma Pi fraternity appears to show someone in costume as a Klansman.
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My point in posting that quote is that it wasn't until 2001 that the ADULTS in charge of KA told the kids to knock it off. Prior to that, it's what KA's did at parties for 100 years.
 
Junebug said:
What makes you think she pulled it out and hung it up?
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I didn’t say she did. I was referring to Diggler’s post.

Junebug said:
I don’t know for sure, but probably because she dated one of the frat bros and a lot of them liked her?

You’re treating it like she was dressed in blackface with a hooded KKK member and a noose. In all likelihood, she just showed up and had her picture taken.
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So symbols do matter? Which one is it. Make up your mind, Junebug.
 
Ph- does anyone who has ever shown reverence to the confederate flag by watching the Dukes of Hazard also need to prove to you that they aren’t racist?
 
Shorty said:
I can’t imagine that her employer didn’t approve everything that went into that yearbook.
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After the fact...last month...she didn't get ahead of a story that she should have known was coming.
 
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ConnorEl said:
Technical point: That’s not Benson. Didn’t exist then.
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Good point. I was thinking it was Benson because it’s right by KA. Steps by Reynolda then right? Benson was built like 1989 or 90 I think. It was pretty new first time I visited campus.
 
Looks to me like the steps between Reynolda and Davis, leading up to the quad.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
I find it interesting that we seem to all mostly agree about what that flag is used to symbolize, but we seem to diverge on what it meant 30+ years ago. Dukes of Hazzard seems to be the key piece of evidence. I would argue that the General Lee as an icon had more to do with racism in society than a benign confederate flag.
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I don’t think Lee as an icon is racist at all. Just means you watched the Ken Burns documentary. Or any civil war movie ever. Greatness at something makes one an icon.
 
PhDeac said:
Good point. I was thinking it was Benson because it’s right by KA. Steps by Reynolda then right? Benson was built like 1989 or 90 I think. It was pretty new first time I visited campus.
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Did you ever party with KA’s while you were at Wake?
 
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