ImTheCaptain
I disagree with you
Dr. Jill doing her best to woo strick and the M&Ms
Dems don’t win with establishment candidates.
What's the answer then?
i assume you mean Bill Clinton and not Hillary
Candidates like Carter, Clinton, and Obama instead of candidates like Mondale, Gore, and Kerry. (Don’t remember how establishment Dukakis was)
Candidates who build enthusiasm and generate turnout. Candidates who show a distinct contrast to Trump.
just such a perfect distillation of the Democratic Party in 2019
Mayor Pete is the only one in this crowd that does that for me and he is too green. The rest are just meh as there is no Clinton/Obama in this bunch.
And the last 3 Dem presidents have been people who weren’t nationally known before they ran.
BS. Obama ran second to Hillary in the polls throughout 2006 and 2007, ahead of Edwards. And in some polls it was closer than this race is now. You're creating a false narrative about Obama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio..._2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
And Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign just didn't have a strong frontrunner. He beat Jerry Brown and Paul Tsongas for the nomination FFS.
Carter beat Jerry Brown and George Fucking Wallace.
Harris in a tailspin. Biden support broadens. CNN poll.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/20/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-2020-biden-rebound/index.html
So you're citing primary polls to say Obama was nationally known before he ran. Think about that for a second.
Tailspin is a bit clickbait-y. It’s not great, but the post-first debate bounce was always likely a bit inflated. The most concerning aspect of the drop is the decline in non-white support. Harris’ clearest path to the nomination has always been an Obama-esque coalition of minority voters and enough white voters to get over the line. If she continues dropping in minority support, it is more troubling than just a general big drop in numbers. My guess is that Harris will level out at around 8-9% going into the 3rd debate, roughly where she was pre-debates.
I'm increasingly feeling like we're really going to blow this and re-elect Trump.
Tailspin is a bit clickbait-y. It’s not great, but the post-first debate bounce was always likely a bit inflated. The most concerning aspect of the drop is the decline in non-white support. Harris’ clearest path to the nomination has always been an Obama-esque coalition of minority voters and enough white voters to get over the line. If she continues dropping in minority support, it is more troubling than just a general big drop in numbers. My guess is that Harris will level out at around 8-9% going into the 3rd debate, roughly where she was pre-debates.
You're acting like Mayor Pete has asome chance in this race and he doesn't.
I'm also citing polls from a year before the primaries start to show that he was actually a viable candidate at this point, unlike the group of actual unknowns who are still crowding the stage at debates.
And yes, the guy who gave the keynote at the DNC in 2004 is not an unknown. He had two bestsellers and a Grammy before he announced his campaign run. But sure, not nationally known.