Obama didn’t automatically increase turnout. The DNC had an incredible grassroots effort (designed by Board favorite Howard Dean) that Obama was able to build on with his already impressive campaign apparatus.
The Democratic folks least likely to vote are young people, particularly young POC. Who do you think they support? I have shared the survey data on here before, but it’s pretty clearly Sanders and then Warren.
The “no we can’t” sector of the base reliably votes, but a progressive candidate rallies the rest, which is why Obama completely destroyed the primary field as a relative newcomer back in 2007-2008.
The only candidate with charisma that approaches Obama's in 2008 is Sanders (and Sanders isn't anywhere close to being as charismatic as Obama, just to be clear). Warren and Biden definitely don't have it, but I do think the Warren organization is doing a pretty good job so far. I still don't know why Biden is even running given his messaging and campaign's effort at this point. He's going to have to stand for something beyond beating Trump if he wants to win this thing.
Bernie's charisma is completely lost on me. I'm fine with most of his politics (or at least his political theory- his chance of getting any of his signature stuff passed is negligible), but his personality does nothing for me.
There is nobody in the race with any charisma. Which is why we are going to lose.
The only candidate with charisma that approaches Obama's in 2008 is Sanders
Interviews of likely Democratic presidential primary voters were conducted between March 8 and March 20, 2019 and the margin of error for this portion of the sample (n=934) was +/- 4.5% with a 95% confidence interval. The full poll of all 18 to 29-year-olds includes more than 3,000 interviews and will be released later this month.
A lot of young people disagree with you. It's funny. Anecdotally and based on polling data, 18-35 year olds love Sanders and find him really charismatic while folks over 35 just don't. There's a "parents don't understand" element here, sure, but it seems ridiculous to say the guy has no charisma.
Here are findings from a national poll last July conducted by Harvard of 18-29 year olds:
At the link, you can find comparative data from 2007 and 2015 iterations of the surveys. There's also been a lot of discussions on this thread of by-age voting preferences that support this point, so I'm not going to rehash them.
I don't think it is worth delving into the semantics of whether Sanders' strong support among younger voters is due to charisma, policy, some combination, or whatever. He clearly has strong support among younger (hopefully) voters. I just don't find him charismatic at all.
I will confess that I am an unrepentant ageist at this point, so maybe the fact that he is so old is the reason his charm is lost on me (as is Biden's, for that matter).
I don’t really care about charisma. In organizing trainings, they discuss being wary of the “charismatic leader” who offers nothing but fancy words. Those people are usually career opportunists.
A lot of young people disagree with you. It's funny. Anecdotally and based on polling data, 18-35 year olds love Sanders and find him really charismatic while folks over 35 just don't. There's a "parents don't understand" element here, sure, but it seems ridiculous to say the guy has no charisma.
Here are findings from a national poll last July conducted by Harvard of 18-29 year olds:
At the link, you can find comparative data from 2007 and 2015 iterations of the surveys. There's also been a lot of discussions on this thread of by-age voting preferences that support this point, so I'm not going to rehash them.
At least Sig is honest about it...
Ph, how do you explain the results from 2015, then? C'mon, man. You're reaching.
They also usually win the Presidential elections.