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I would say don’t know about them. Mashburn wasn’t necessarily memorable but everybody knows him.
 
Yeah, I was going to ask what the criteria for obscure again were. Sure, coming up with a guy nobody's ever heard of is obscure, but I like the guy that you've totally ever forgotten about, who's faded into the abyss of time.
 
PhDeac said:
For that era? Not really. Those good Knicks teams were about toughness not hitting efficient three pointers. The game has changed so much. Guys like Mason and Oakley would be forced to develop a reliable three point shot nowadays.

And in that era, SGs needed to be able to defend Jordan by being physical and be able to chase Miller around the court.
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Would love to see Mason beat the shit out of Draymond.
 
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Guys like Mash and Laettner would be obscure if not for their college careers. Laettner had a very obscure NBA career given his numbers.

But Starks was one of Jordan’s main nemeses during Jordan’s prime.
 
BiffTannen said:
Would love to see Mason beat the shit out of Draymond.
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Oh yeah. I’d love to see that 93-94 Knicks team vs. current teams just for curiosity’s sake. Draymond would have been a great 90s player. I still think he’s Rick Mahorn’s love child.
 
 
Fats Lever was the 2nd coming of the Big O - Oscar Robertson - for a year or two, the only triple double guy form the 90s, but he only did it for a year and a half, if memory serves.

Laettner had a pretty good pro career IMO.

The Duke guy I was surprised sucked in the NBA was Sheldon Williams. I don't think he every seriously got NBA minutes. He married well though.
 
jaybone said:
None of them compare, actually:

Tony Battie (not battle), was an underachieving 5th overall pick, but did play for 14 seasons and 800 + games, scoring over 5000 pts
Jonathan Bender, was a straight from high school player who lost 4 seasons to injury. Still, he played in 262 games across 8 seasons and scored almost 1500 pts.
Nikoloz Tskitishvili is closest to Kenny Green implosion. ALSO a 5th overall pick, he played 172 games across 4 seasons and had just over 500 pts.

Kenny Green, 12 overall pick, 60 total games, barely 2 seasons (he was cut in his 2nd season) and 265 pts.

To add insult to injury, he didn't even score a huge contract to live off of - preceding the modern era by a season or two, Kenny Green made $262,000 playing in the NBA despite being a lottery pick. Crazy.
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Green was not a lottery pick. The Bullets made the playoffs in 1985. There were only 7 teams in the lottery that year, and Green went 12th. This was the first draft lottery, and launched the Ewing/Knicks conspiracy theory.

Chris Washburn went #3 overall the following year, and has a legitimate claim to worst lottery pick among players who were actually lottery picks. Alexsander Radojevic (#12 in 1999) notched an impressive 15 career games played. Fran Vazquez (#11 in '05) apparently never played.
 
I had never considered that "Chuck Person" would be a better name for a shoot first wing than "The Rifleman." That's brilliant.
 
Shelden was a 6'9" PF/C

lots of those all-ACC dudes at that size didn't do much in the NBA

I guess Brand or Boozer were the best of 'em from the last 20 or so years
 
PhDeac said:
Oh yeah. I’d love to see that 93-94 Knicks team vs. current teams just for curiosity’s sake. Draymond would have been a great 90s player. I still think he’s Rick Mahorn’s love child.
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Lebron would be a totally different player if he had played in that era. I still think he'd be great obviously, but there's no way he'd have the ball in his hands as much.
 
BiffTannen said:
Lebron would be a totally different player if he had played in that era. I still think he'd be great obviously, but there's no way he'd have the ball in his hands as much.
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Different? Yeah. I think he'd either be considered the heir apparent to Magic as a big PG or he'd be a physical forward who would definitely a great post up game and decent shot. Obviously he'd be great in any era.

I think that plenty of players who are good today would have been good in the past. Plenty of players from the past would struggle today. But if I had to put together a team of Jordan-era players or Duncan-era players to play today's best, I'd like their chances. Greatness is great no matter what.
 
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OldGoldBeard said:
Green was not a lottery pick. The Bullets made the playoffs in 1985. There were only 7 teams in the lottery that year, and Green went 12th. This was the first draft lottery, and launched the Ewing/Knicks conspiracy theory.

Chris Washburn went #3 overall the following year, and has a legitimate claim to worst lottery pick among players who were actually lottery picks. Alexsander Radojevic (#12 in 1999) notched an impressive 15 career games played. Fran Vazquez (#11 in '05) apparently never played.
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Good post, I forgot all three of those guys which is surprising - I got really good seats to a Hawks game when Washburn spent 10 games with them after he was traded from Golden State - the coach, who I think was Mike Fratello, asked him to go in, and he couldn't get his sweat pants off. Then, when he got them off, his shoes were untied. Literally untied and he had to go back and sit down.
 
No love for Shavlik Randolph? Didn't he diagnose some injury and put halved tennis balls in his shoes for arch support?
 
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