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Coronavirus !!! Very Political Thread !!!

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Yeah this is what is getting lost in this when you start talking confounding variables, its a virus and a human population you can't just take raw data. Even in simplistic flawed raw data, you don't need to start combining countries to get a similar population for comparisons you just weight the populations to an assigned value. If you go by the raw numbers you say well Shit the US is fucked look at our line compared to Spain, Italy, and Germany. You weight it by population and you say well Fuck yeah US is the best, comparable to Germany, while Italy and Spain are horrible. Then you take into account what redwing states and weight by population while controlling for population density of the continental US compared to Germany, Italy, and Spain, and you go back to Spain is fucked, we are second fucked, Italy actually isnt so bad and Germany is best. That's just the most simplistic explanation of how you can't just take raw values when there's so many factors that go into an actual model, since by simply adding two things you know to be real you get vastly different outcomes.

But this is the data we have readily available. And while I have recognized repeatedly there are a lot of variables in play, it does paint similar overall outcomes other than, so far, with respect to deaths. And the outliers there are the US (earlier in the curve so may not hold) and Germany.
 
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If this is a real question - reinsurance.

Also even with hundreds of thousands of deaths they will be spread out among many insurance companies. The older the age of the death skews the better as well. Some of the same companies also provide lifetime annuity payments that will be getting cut short.

Life insurance companies biggest hit will be on investment returns.
 
The President of Austria addressed the country again today (an unusual thing to do, politicians rarely given national speeches like this) - and said this (translated to English, not by me). It's not anything remarkable, but it's genuine and caring and in such stark contrast to the fucking nonsense the President of the United States spews daily. There were no cheap promises, no quack medical theories, no guarantees of anything. Just honesty and compassion and resolve.

(video here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1253319421532425)

“Dear Austrians and everyone who lives here.

We are all facing a great challenge together right now. The Corona pandemic demands great restrictions and a lot of consideration from us. And we have dead people to mourn. To all relatives who have lost a loved one, I would like to express my special sympathy.

Ladies and gentlemen:

For all of us together this situation is new, uncertain; it makes us feel insecure. At the same time, we know that each and every one of us can make a contribution by consistently changing our own lifestyle for the coming period.

We all know that we are only at the beginning of this joint effort. Almost three weeks have now passed since the Austria-wide exit restrictions came into force. That is an unusually long time. And we all wish it were over already.

And yet we know: Together we all have to hold on a little longer.

To all the elderly who may feel alone and isolated, to all the physically or mentally ill who are struggling, and to their relatives who cannot now show their affection in direct contact.

All the doctors and health care workers who are already exhausted and are now holding their breath in anticipation of what is to come.

All the volunteers who put themselves at risk of infection to help others. All the people at the cash desks of the shops.

All the entrepreneurs, the freelancers, all the people who have lost their jobs, all those – as in the AMS – who have to deal with thousands and thousands of requests and implement the measures decided upon, the artists who fear for their existence.

All parents who are under pressure, and all pupils, apprentices and students in our country. And all the people who are impatiently waiting for the end of this crisis.

To all of them I say: Let’s hold on! Let’s hold on! And: Let us keep our courage and our confidence!

Dear Austrians and all those who live here, I want to be honest with you: I don’t know how long it will take to overcome this crisis.

And I don’t know how bad it will be either. No one can say that with certainty at the moment.

But there is one certainty. And I ask you to always remember that: It will pass. The crisis will pass. Until it does, we will get used to a new way of life for a while.

We will maintain for a time some new habits that are simply necessary for us all to protect ourselves.

We have already gotten used to not shaking hands. We will keep on washing our hands more often, because it makes sense anyway.

Let’s keep in touch with everyone who is important to us, but keep our distance. So, let’s keep at least one meter distance to our nearest and dearest. We have also learned this in the meantime.

All this has become part of our everyday life, just like wearing a mouth and nose mask when shopping.

We will continue to talk to each other more often via telephone or video conference, and perhaps find that we are talking to family and friends more often now than before the crisis.

This will continue for a while, and it looks as if it will be a little longer. And if it is necessary – and it is necessary – then we will do it. Together!

Because we know why we are doing it: Because we want to protect those people for whom this disease is life-threatening.

We will continue to develop a new style of cooperation in the future! A new togetherness, as it will be lived and worked in the companies, as in the shops, the tourist businesses and the inns, the offices and authorities, social services, hospitals and doctors’ surgeries, schools and childcare facilities.

And part of our new shared reality is probably also the fact that we do not immediately have an answer to every question. Rather, we are prepared to constantly learn and adapt our strategies.

Ladies and gentlemen, even if we are now struggling with our situation, even if we sometimes find it hard to bear it. There are insights that we can gain. And if we do that, this crisis may not have been in vain.

One insight is quite obvious: We are stronger and more closely connected than we were aware of. Everything we do or don’t do has consequences for others.

We see and prove this in a positive sense right now: Our entire society has acted to protect the lives of our particularly vulnerable fellow citizens.

Even those who are not directly endangered are radically restricting their lives. And in doing so, they accept drastic economic consequences.

But we do it because it is the right thing to do. Because we want to live in a society in which every life is equally valuable. Where those who are doing well look at those who are not doing so well.

In this way we show that for us these are not just words, but that these words are also worth something to us. And that we act accordingly in the case of an emergency.

With the strength of each one of us, we are now all together weakening the virus! We all bring life to what we believe in. We show respect and selflessness and thus strengthen our community. A heartfelt thank you for this.

And a word to the older ones among us:

Take special care of yourself. Stay at home. Let someone help you. Ask for help with the groceries. Give up – for the time being – a few cherished habits such as family or other direct contacts.

I know this is not easy. We love our habits. But let us replace them with new ones. We’ll get it right!

Let’s do it together, please. Let’s protect ourselves and protect our family and our friends.

Ladies and gentlemen, some day we will look back on this strange, painful, unreal spring of 2020. And we will find: It has passed. It has passed!

And we will perhaps be able to better appreciate how valuable and important we are to each other.

Thank you very much.”
 
And a lot of the folks dying are poor, old, or have preexisting conditions so not exactly the clientele of life insurance companies
 
Buddy is a doctor in the Navy, just got sent to LA to work the hospital boat.

Has to quarantine in a hotel, can’t leave his room for 14 days. Meals dropped at his door, no alcohol.

The lack of testing is costing the government so much fucking money.
 
Buddy is a doctor in the Navy, just got sent to LA to work the hospital boat.

Has to quarantine in a hotel, can’t leave his room for 14 days. Meals dropped at his door, no alcohol.

The lack of testing is costing the government so much fucking money.

But the money's going out as transfer payments.
 
And a lot of the folks dying are poor, old, or have preexisting conditions so not exactly the clientele of life insurance companies

59% of Americans have some form of life insurance. I'm a bit surprised it is that high of a percentage. Not sure if that adjusts out people under 18. If not it suggests an even higher percentage of adults. This is just per the google.
 
 
There has to be a like video game Strick could play where he can knock down straw men instead of doing it here.

Cable news is the opiate of the OGBoards. Y’all portfolio bros chase off anybody who dares push back on your takes while high fiving anybody who agrees with you despite the fact that y’all don’t actually agree on politics short of loving to dunk on young progressives. Whatamount has some of the most miserable politics on the board, but you’re cool with them bc owning the progs or whatever is fun.

We’ve spoken about politics IRL, man. We agree on like 90% of issues most likely and respectfully disagree on the other 10%. The only thing you and Whatamount agree on is that Bernie sucks and that young progressives on the internet - particularly me in this instance - are annoying.

I might be a shitty poster - lots of you clearly agree that I am - but I try to be somewhat less shitty in other things that I do. I’ll spend more time doing those things and less time disturbing you and fucking Whatamount (seriously, man?!) as y’all jerk each other off in your cable news induced reality bubble.
 
Who on here are you talking about? I haven’t seen much if any Cuomo for President talk, certainly not from me. I’ve only started watching cable news regularly since staying at home.

You can name names and use the search engine.
 
Coronavirus / Bad Flu 69 !!

Buddy is a doctor in the Navy, just got sent to LA to work the hospital boat.

Has to quarantine in a hotel, can’t leave his room for 14 days. Meals dropped at his door, no alcohol.

The lack of testing is costing the government so much fucking money.

Add to the fact that only THREE people have been admitted to the NYC ship because of onerous requirements and it’s beginning to look like another boondoggle.
 
The only people I know who are talking about Cuomo taking over for Biden are Trumpers and clearly not on these boards. That being said, it has been floated in the general public.
 
I just want to take a moment to say I like both Ph and Strick.


I even like Cata.


Carry on.
 
I feel like a jerk. I’ve been really frustrated by so many people acting so irresponsibly and selfishly. I assumed this cruise left port in the last week or two. I spoke out of ignorance and shouldn’t have. Thank you for correcting me.

I just want to take a moment to say I like both Ph and Strick.


I even like Cata.


Carry on.

This.
 
There has to be a like video game Strick could play where he can knock down straw men instead of doing it here.
Cable TV is the opiate of the masses all you Cuomo lovers!!!!1111!

Uh, ok
 
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