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Coronavirus !!! Very Political Thread !!!

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I also generally enjoy both Ph and Strick's posts, but they are clearly on each other's last nerves and their nitpicks at each other are pretty annoying.
 
forensicdeac said:
The only people I know who are talking about Cuomo taking over for Biden are Trumpers and clearly not on these boards. That being said, it has been floated in the general public.
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A big part of the GOP strategy isn't just to fire up their own base, it's to stoke any possible division or dissent among the Democrats. If you can wreck Democratic unity, or find some way to depress the Democratic turnout, that's a huge win for the GOP. That's why Trump and other Republican pols and Fox News/Business talking heads keep tweeting and talking about how Sanders is being treated so unfairly by the Dem Establishment, or playing up the rumor (and it's nothing more) that AOC will primary Chuck Schumer in the NY Senate race, and now this stuff about Cuomo replacing Biden. Anything they can do to sow chaos and confusion and dissent in the Democratic ranks is a win for them, and I would expect that we'll keep seeing and hearing stuff like this until the election in November.
 
DeacMan said:
I know in Minnesota people are getting annoyed that New York is getting a disproportionate amount of tests vs. the rest of the nation.
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Do you have numbers to support that?
 
DeacMan said:
I know in Minnesota people are getting annoyed that New York is getting a disproportionate amount of tests vs. the rest of the nation.
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No sense sense sending tests to the place with the most sick people.
 
[h=1]The Coronavirus’s Unique Threat to the South[/h] More young people in the South seem to be dying from COVID-19. Why?


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...irus-unique-threat-south-young-people/609241/

Very interesting read.

A recent analysis from the Kaiser Family Foundation might shed some light on what’s going on here. The paper, drawing on the CDC guidelines, identifies people who may be at risk of serious complications from COVID-19. Kaiser’s at-risk group includes all people over 60 years old and all adults younger than 60 who also have heart disease, cancer, lung disease, or diabetes. In each state, older people are the majority of the people considered to be at risk of complications. But the Deep South and mid-South form a solid bloc of states where younger adults are much more at risk. In Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Mississippi, relatively young people make up more than a quarter of the vulnerable population. Compare that with the coronavirus’s beachhead in Washington State, where younger adults make up only about 19 percent of the risk group.
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These differences are not innate to southerners; they are the result of policy. Health disparities tend to track both race and poverty, and the states in the old domain of Jim Crow have pursued policies that ensure those disparities endure. The South is the poorest region in the country. The poor, black, Latino, or rural residents who make up large shares of southern populations tend to lack access to high-quality doctors and care. According to the State Health Access Data Assistance Center, Mississippi, North Carolina, Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Louisiana all spend less than $25 per person on public health a year, compared with $84 per person in New York. Nine of the 14 states that have refused to expand Medicaid to poor residents under the Affordable Care Act are in the South. And many of those states are led by Republican leaders who have imitated President Donald Trump’s dallying and flip-flopping, and now find themselves flat-footed.

The slow response from those governors will be even more ruinous in a region with so many challenges. Chronic disease and the apparent increased risk for younger people from COVID-19 are only part of the story in the South. Other factors could complicate its pandemic response. Advocates have drawn attention to the extreme vulnerability of people in prison to the coronavirus—and the South incarcerates a larger proportion of its population than anywhere else in the United States. A federal prison in Louisiana has already seen a spike in COVID-19 cases this week. Also, a global fear in this pandemic is that it will sicken health professionals and doctors, and leave them unable to contend with waves of hospitalizations. Southern states have some of the lowest ratios of active physicians to patients in the country.
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We should not assume US health outcomes will mirror countries with better health care and nutrition practices.
 
PhDeac said:
[h=1]The Coronavirus’s Unique Threat to the South[/h] More young people in the South seem to be dying from COVID-19. Why?


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...irus-unique-threat-south-young-people/609241/

Very interesting read.



We should not assume US health outcomes will mirror countries with better health care and nutrition practices.
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No we shouldn't. But things like smoking - where the US has a 18% rate - are also problematic. Most nations have rates well into the 20's or 30's for smoking. Our prevalence of diabetes is about 10%, which is roughly in line with a lot of developed nations like Germany We do suck ass at obesity - 35% (vs. more between 20-30% for a lot of developed nations). But shitty health is not some American phenomena.
 
Shitty health care is among developed countries.
 
DeacMan said:
No we shouldn't. But things like smoking - where the US has a 18% rate - are also problematic. Most nations have rates well into the 20's or 30's for smoking. Our prevalence of diabetes is about 10%, which is roughly in line with a lot of developed nations like Germany We do suck ass at obesity - 35% (vs. more between 20-30% for a lot of developed nations). But shitty health is not some American phenomena.
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Earlier you brought Minnesotans being upset with NY getting more tests. First, MN has 1% of the cases of NY. They also have less than 1% of the deaths and fewer than 1/3 of population of NY.

Why should MN expect to get a disproportionate number of tests and other materials at this point?
 
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