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F is for Fascism (Ferguson MO)

like I understand the meaning of the word, but how am I being tendentious?
 
Trump is pissed someone else is getting so much love and attention.

And somehow it’s working against him.

Asshole is jealous of a dude killed by the cops.
 
fuck that de-radical shit. Obama's out here still trying to compromise and piss away all this fucking leverage that he didn't have shit to do with.
 
FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME




(Shamelessly stolen form my favorite Twitter follow, but its my inspiration for the last day)
 
Coach O said:
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So this Fox News graphic is just literally my whole entire political ideology. Like if you need scientific proof that our society is fucked

 
Frosty said:
Only $5 billion more to go
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The police aren't going to take the cuts lying down. Or if they do they just lie down and let the cities burn. It'll be interesting to see how in LA they respond to all of them being called on duty 24/7 to get insulted all day and put their safety at increased danger, not be able to take any time off and simultaneously being told they're being defunded. Their official response was questioning whether the mayor was mentally fit for duty.

The problems inherently are the way police are trained, and probably the type of person that applies to be a cop. There are good cops, my best friend growing up is one of them, but there's always going to be the white supremacist type too, and they're going to be significant part of the profession. Their lives are more valuable than others. Protect yourself at all costs. Those things are natural when your job is to deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis. Don't rat on your fellow officers. In theory that should change but it never will. I don't think it's reasonable to expect any of these things to change although you could see independent oversight as making a big difference. The only thing you can do is essentially legalize drugs and stop policing the drug trade. I'm sure that there's a negative effect to that as well. There's no easy solution. If you look around the world, the happiest societies are the small homogeneous ones. It's basically Scandanavia. The dumbasses are reproducing at a higher rate than the smart folks because the smart folks can do the math on finances. And in a selfish capitalist society that only rewards the top 10%, it's hard to see any way in which things end up better. 1999 was peak America. The era of boy bands.
 
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How do you know your friend is a good cop? How does anybody know their friend is good at their job?

How do you know that $1B wouldn’t go to something that would stop the city from burning better than the cops?
 
palmab03 said:
The police aren't going to take the cuts lying down. Or if they do they just lie down and let the cities burn. It'll be interesting to see how in LA they respond to all of them being called on duty 24/7 to get insulted all day and put their safety at increased danger, not be able to take any time off and simultaneously being told they're being defunded. Their official response was questioning whether the mayor was mentally fit for duty.

The problems inherently are the way police are trained, and probably the type of person that applies to be a cop. There are good cops, my best friend growing up is one of them, but there's always going to be the white supremacist type too, and they're going to be significant part of the profession. Their lives are more valuable than others. Protect yourself at all costs. Those things are natural when your job is to deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis. Don't rat on your fellow officers. In theory that should change but it never will. I don't think it's reasonable to expect any of these things to change although you could see independent oversight as making a big difference. The only thing you can do is essentially legalize drugs and stop policing the drug trade. I'm sure that there's a negative effect to that as well. There's no easy solution. If you look around the world, the happiest societies are the small homogeneous ones. It's basically Scandanavia. The dumbasses are reproducing at a higher rate than the smart folks because the smart folks can do the math on finances. And in a selfish capitalist society that only rewards the top 10%, it's hard to see any way in which things end up better. 1999 was peak America. The era of boy bands.
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Thanks for sharing this. As someone who believes that abolition is the most viable path forward, your first point is the one that I struggle with the most. How do you transition to a new system? Because of my background, I feel particularly qualified to say that this transition is what concerns me the most and that the consequences for getting this wrong would be very, very bad. With that being said, I have a hard time reconciling the hypothetical consequences of this with the bodies that would continue to stack in our streets under our current system.

To your second point, I would argue that there is no such thing as a good cop. Any cop that is not actively turning in the "bad cops" or turning in their badges is a bad cop. Maybe a small number of police have chosen this path, but, largely speaking, practically none have. Any police officers that actively choose to participate in this system are bad cops. Period.

Also, I would be very careful to conflate homogeneity with happiness. This is would be a textbook example of misusing correlation.
 
There will certainly be negative outcomes of defunding or abolition. Some cops could transition to other public safety or social work positions. However, a lot of low skilled men, many with white supremacist ties, would be out of a job. A respected career and being part of a group brings stability.

Unstable white men who have coasting on white supremacy have been and will be a consequence of race and gender progress. Expect drug use to go up. Expect domestic abuse to up even higher. Expect violence crime and hate crimes to go up when it won’t be excused by a badge.

Those aren’t reasons not to move forward. But there will be a need to enfranchise and rehabilitate former cops.
 
 
PhDeac said:
How do you know your friend is a good cop? How does anybody know their friend is good at their job?

How do you know that $1B wouldn’t go to something that would stop the city from burning better than the cops?
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We have decades of attempts and trillions of dollars of Democrat urban social programs that haven't done a goddamn thing to improve anything. Thinking that the drop in the bucket budget money going from the cops to some instant pie in the sky program is actually going to help after decades of direct evidence to the contrary is insane.

I'm fine with defunding a good portion of the police if people think that will decrease police brutality, but I've also seen and been affected by enough crime first-hand to know that thinking it is somehow related to or proximately caused by police oversight such that putting the money elsewhere will solve the crime problem is just stupid. We can try the experiment, but have to be prepared to live with the consequences either way.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
We have decades of attempts and trillions of dollars of Democrat urban social programs that haven't done a goddamn thing to improve anything. Thinking that the drop in the bucket budget money going from the cops to some instant pie in the sky program is actually going to help after decades of direct evidence to the contrary is insane.

I'm fine with defunding a good portion of the police if people think that will decrease police brutality, but I've also seen and been affected by enough crime first-hand to know that thinking it is somehow related to or proximately caused by police oversight such that putting the money elsewhere will solve the crime problem is just stupid. We can try the experiment, but have to be prepared to live with the consequences either way.
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This makes no sense. What do you think causes crime?
 
 
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