BillBrasky Memorial Political Chat Thread

[myDeaconmyhand]

thinking about the Claudia Conway situation, and I wonder if it ever occurred to Republicans to move the capital to a more culturally conservative part of the country. Republicans hate DC. What if there was a Republican White House in OKC or Dallas?

 

[birdman]

thinking about the Claudia Conway situation, and I wonder if it ever occurred to Republicans to move the capital to a more culturally conservative part of the country. Republicans hate DC. What if there was a Republican White House in OKC or Dallas?

What about Jerusalem?

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

What about Jerusalem?

would be redundant

 

[BillBrasky]

thinking about the Claudia Conway situation, and I wonder if it ever occurred to Republicans to move the capital to a more culturally conservative part of the country. Republicans hate DC. What if there was a Republican White House in OKC or Dallas?

The geographical center of the Continental 48 is located in Lebanon, KS. However the GOP would probably want to rename in Reaganville due to its unfortunate Arab name.

 

[Liquid Karma]

thinking about the Claudia Conway situation, and I wonder if it ever occurred to Republicans to move the capital to a more culturally conservative part of the country. Republicans hate DC. What if there was a Republican White House in OKC or Dallas?

They tried that in the 1860's...

 

[ImTheCaptain]

yeah, and they only moved it 100 miles

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

They tried that in the 1860's...

I wasnt talking about seceding, just establishing an alternate residence for Republican Presidents. Much in the same way that Miralago and W. Bush's ranch have operated unofficially.

 

[BillBrasky]

yeah, and they only moved it 100 miles

Which was such a dumb move. I get that Virginia was the most prosperous and populated state at the time but move the capital to Atlanta or keep it in Montgomery. I know it took 3+ years for Richmond to fall but the Confederacy wasted so many resources trying to defend it.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

maybe im wrong, but it seems as though Democratic Presidents spend more time at Camp David, while Republicans have their own personal residences they prefer more

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

I would guess that we've spent hundreds of millions upgrading, modifying, and staffing alternate Presidential residences - similar to how new Olympic sites are constructed every 4 years at immense expense.

 

[PhDeac]

maybe im wrong, but it seems as though Democratic Presidents spend more time at Camp David, while Republicans have their own personal residences they prefer more

Because Republican Presidents have been wealthier than Democratic Presidents.

 

[deaconson]

Has flotus' decimation of the WH garden been discussed? Truly awful and tone def. Tore out Jackie Kennedy's crab apple trees after her husband was murdered? Really? #BeBest

 

[thatguy2016]

maybe im wrong, but it seems as though Democratic Presidents spend more time at Camp David, while Republicans have their own personal residences they prefer more

I was curious so I looked this up. From wiki:

Presidential Visits to Camp David[15]


President

Political party

No. of visits


Roosevelt Democratic N/A
Truman Democratic 10
Eisenhower Republican 45
Kennedy Democratic 19
Johnson Democratic 30
Nixon Republican 160
Ford Republican 29
Carter Democratic 99
Reagan Republican 189
Bush I Republican 124
Clinton Democratic 60
Bush II Republican 150
Obama Democratic 39
Trump Republican N/A

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

wow, I dont see a partisan trend there, but my premise is certainly blown about Pubs not going to Camp David. So was W Bush just never at the White house?

 

[deactherunner]

I wasnt talking about seceding, just establishing an alternate residence for Republican Presidents. Much in the same way that Miralago and W. Bush's ranch have operated unofficially.

The Mar-a-lago solution is the long term solution for the GOP. Every Republican President's campaign will include a Cribs-like tour of their mansion that will serve as the second capital. This would work on libertarian types who think having billions is proof of your merit to society, prosperity gospel types who think having billions is proof that God loves you, and the "suck it libs" crowd.

 

[Gooner]

wow, I dont see a partisan trend there, but my premise is certainly blown about Pubs not going to Camp David. So was W Bush just never at the White house?

Obviously I was a child for all of his Presidency but I seem to remember one common criticism of GWB was exactly that

 

[Gooner]

Also the divide between GOP/Dem on that pretty much has to be statistically significant (insofar as a sample size of something as small as "US Presidents that had Camp David as an option" can be) but I don't know enough about the political climates of the 60s/70s/80s to know precise reasons why this would happen. It's easy to look at GWB and Trump and think that any day they spent at Camp David was a day out of the spotlight of the press and that the GOP are less inclined to transparency because they know their policies and actions are unpopular whereas Democratic presidents are more willing to defend/answer for their policies and actions. But I don't know that you an extrapolate that from the data.

Maybe GOP presidents just really like the bed.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

Also the divide between GOP/Dem on that pretty much has to be statistically significant (insofar as a sample size of something as small as "US Presidents that had Camp David as an option" can be) but I don't know enough about the political climates of the 60s/70s/80s to know precise reasons why this would happen. It's easy to look at GWB and Trump and think that any day they spent at Camp David was a day out of the spotlight of the press and that the GOP are less inclined to transparency because they know their policies and actions are unpopular whereas Democratic presidents are more willing to defend/answer for their policies and actions. But I don't know that you an extrapolate that from the data.

Maybe GOP presidents just really like the bed.

I kinda got off topic, but my point in bringing up Claudia Conway was that even in a Republican administration, Republicans are very unpopular in Washington DC, and the Trump administration even more so. So a lot of these Trump staff members and administration that live in DC have to be pretty miserable, which leads me to Claudia Conway. Even if the girl is herself a liberal, which it seems like she is, I would assume that her life would be better if she lived in some Republican suburb in say...Dallas or Oklahoma City, where both her parents would be popular. That doesn't really resolve the issue of the Conways being shitty abusive parents.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

I think it would make for interesting political fantasy fiction to imagine a Republican administration centered in a Republican cultural center. The turnout for the inauguration could have been massive, the military parade is probably much more successful. Who knows what kinds of terrible stupid shit Trump gets away with in Texas that he doesn't in DC.

 

[BarcaDeac]

Also the divide between GOP/Dem on that pretty much has to be statistically significant (insofar as a sample size of something as small as "US Presidents that had Camp David as an option" can be) but I don't know enough about the political climates of the 60s/70s/80s to know precise reasons why this would happen. It's easy to look at GWB and Trump and think that any day they spent at Camp David was a day out of the spotlight of the press and that the GOP are less inclined to transparency because they know their policies and actions are unpopular whereas Democratic presidents are more willing to defend/answer for their policies and actions. But I don't know that you an extrapolate that from the data.

Maybe GOP presidents just really like the bed.

on a related note, you think the next president will rip out the Presidential toilet(s)? I can't imagine sitting on the same one Trump did for 4 (8?) years straight.