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BillBrasky Memorial Political Chat Thread

DistrictDeacon said:
Plama should sue for plagiarism.

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PhDeac said:
Yeah. That's what Bloomberg should be doing. Invest in liberals to start businesses in Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. A small percentage of people from the LA and SF-Oakland areas could move there and flip those states.
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I mean it's so obvious. I may be dumb, but I've always been a world class strategy gamer. The amount dems have spent on ads this year could have been spent just paying people to move to other states. The pandemic and people working remotely really can accelerate this. Climate change also makes it more viable. The weather in North Dakota wasn't that appealing 20 years ago. It will be 20 years from now.

The west coast is now wildfires, earthquakes and tsunamis. The Midwest is tornadoes. The east coast is hurricanes. No natural disasters going on in the Dakotas as far as I know.
 
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BillBrasky said:
Shitty situation Palma but it also sounds like y'all did a poor job vetting this guy. People don't just become dirtbacks over night.
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Well this is the truth, but I came in to clean it up.
 
Just to clarify, Bloomberg helped fundraise 16million which apparently pays 500 each for 32,000 formerly incarcerated fines and fees.

So
1. 16 million more than I raised
2. Not his own money
3. 32k voters out of over a million still disenfranchised

Bloomberg promises 100 million for Florida, so I guess we’ll just have to see how much money other people are willing to give him
To fulfill that promise
 
Hopefully that 32k are the mostly like to actually engage and vote since they may have reached out for assistance.
 
DeSantis beat Gillum by 32,463 votes.
Scott beat Nelson by 10,033 votes.
 
stugotz said:
The legal system in this country flat out sucks. And some lawyers are terrible people. You're about to seen an onslaught of extortion lawsuits claiming famous people said something detrimental to BLM and using that to take money from them in a settlement in order to keep it from being public. The reason you'll see it is cause rich people will choose to just pay people off rather than deal with the headache, even if it's completely made up bullshit. No one wants to be the next Ellen Degeneres.

I recently caught someone straight up embezzling, red handed. Rather than go to jail, or pay it back, we're going to pay this person more money to go away because he's simply fabricating things that make important people look bad, and he filed a wrongful termination lawsuit. Can't say he isn't smart. This is the system we have. this is also the 2nd company I've worked for where the previous person in my job has embezzled, and straight up got away with it because it's not worth the negative press to the owners. So stealing pays.
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Bad vetting and hiring, bad attorneys (or a really good attorney on the other side), obviously some mitigating factors there if you weren't able to just call the police and make a criminal referral. The legal system has plenty of downfalls (including plenty of those stemming from settlement issues from wrongful termination) but this flat out doesn't really sound like one - sounds like an avoidable situation that didn't get addressed until too late.
 
Also I doubt you're going to see "extortion" settlements in any kind of mass situation relating to BLM. That's an absurd leap from your own personal anecdote. The reason that there is an opportunity to make money off a wrongful termination suit is that it's illegal to fire someone for specific reasons and if they can assert a colorable claim that one of those specific reasons occurred then they can make money off of it. How is BLM or someone associated with BLM going to make money off of "George Clooney whispered to me the N word once while we were dancing in Hollywood" or even be in a situation to make this happen? Any attorney worth their salt for Clooney is going to jumpstart that by forcing them to prove something like that happened or they're going to make the first legal move.

You're right that some lawyers are terrible (people and attorneys) but you're wrong about where it crops up the most: bad attorneys don't get their clients out of sticky situations that unfortunately pop up as a course of running a business, being a celebrity, etc.

Again, Palma just wants to ignore real ongoing issues that happen across the board at a systemic level because of #anecdotes.
 
Highland Deac said:
Agreed. Our "news" media - including the laughably named liberal msm - is crap. Also, if the Democrats don't win this year with everything seemingly breaking their way, I don't know when they ever will. It is truly a testament to the power of right-wing media and tribal loyalties that Trump is within striking distance of another term after what by nearly every metric has been a truly disastrous administration. The incompetence and corruption are simply staggering, and yet here we are with Biden trying to cling to a shrinking lead in battleground states and control of the Senate in doubt.
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Dems, generally, can’t tell the truth as persuasively as Pubs lie. And they’re not as good at lying.

The latter is something be thankful for. Not so the former.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Also I doubt you're going to see "extortion" settlements in any kind of mass situation relating to BLM. That's an absurd leap from your own personal anecdote. The reason that there is an opportunity to make money off a wrongful termination suit is that it's illegal to fire someone for specific reasons and if they can assert a colorable claim that one of those specific reasons occurred then they can make money off of it. How is BLM or someone associated with BLM going to make money off of "George Clooney whispered to me the N word once while we were dancing in Hollywood" or even be in a situation to make this happen? Any attorney worth their salt for Clooney is going to jumpstart that by forcing them to prove something like that happened or they're going to make the first legal move.

You're right that some lawyers are terrible (people and attorneys) but you're wrong about where it crops up the most: bad attorneys don't get their clients out of sticky situations that unfortunately pop up as a course of running a business, being a celebrity, etc.

Again, Palma just wants to ignore real ongoing issues that happen across the board at a systemic level because of #anecdotes.
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Of course the lawyer can win the case, it's an easy one to win. But to Clooney, he's got insurance that's going to pay it so it never goes to trial, and it's not worth it for him to fight back due to the negative publicity.
 
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ConnorEl said:
Dems, generally, can’t tell the truth as persuasively as Pubs lie. And they’re not as good at lying.

The latter is something be thankful for. Not so the former.
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I used to think that. Democrats are bad at messaging. Definitely. But I think they’ve just been focusing the message on people who are immune to truth. Mythical “swing voters.” Shitty white who decided several cycles ago that they can’t be part of a diverse political coalition.

So I guess what I’m saying is they focus too much attention on people who are more persuaded by Republican lies.

I also think by virtue of having a huge tent, Democrats don’t have one cohesive message. Last summer, I hung out with a friend during a trip to St. Louis. Hadn’t seen him since grad school. We keep in touch on Facebook. We were talking about what a central Dem message could be. What are Democrats for?

We came up with “Basic Fucking Human Rights.”

We’ve seen that message take off although not specifically in those words. And not specifically from the party. But the message is getting out. College educated white people in the suburbs putting up Black Lives Matter signs. The NBA and WNBA are going all in for voting rights forcing ESPN and TNT and other sponsors to go all in as well. Now we have NBA franchises hosting polling sites.

Democrats just have to convince people that they are the vehicle to make basic fucking human rights a reality for all people. And become that party.
 
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If Trump loses, can he just run again in 2024?
 
Why again is he going to flee? Republicans are not going to leave. They will declare the election invalid and end American democracy.
 
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Paul Hogan said:
Turns out that the strippers are from the ATL, which means that they're true strippers, if you know what I mean.
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Professionals. Incline.

Did Kemp open the strip clubs back up?
 
WFFaithful said:
Why again is he going to flee? Republicans are not going to leave. They will declare the election invalid and end American democracy.
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Well then we'll just have to kill him. I'm still of the belief that the establishment will turn on Trump the moment its clear he has lost the presidential election out of self-preservation, but if not then we have a lot of old white congresspeople to execute or drive into exile. Because at that point it is all we can really do. The only way to topple an authoritarian regime is to cut its head off.
 
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