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2021 Wake Forest Football Season

I've also never heard of Childers or the "Show Pony". Sounds like something RJ would reference (or make up).
 
tigerswood said:
I've also never heard of Childers or the "Show Pony". Sounds like something RJ would reference (or make up).
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yeah and he said pulling. it could've been an actual pony pulling some cart or something like they have those animals who make picks before games.
 
BarcaDeac said:
Let's play Stanford, USC, UCLA, Cal, UW, Michigan, Northwestern, UF, all excellent schools.
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Florida doesn’t play out of state non-conference road games. I think their last one was like 40 years ago. They are worse than duke in that regard.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
Florida doesn’t play out of state non-conference road games. I think their last one was like 40 years ago. They are worse than duke in that regard.
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UF has future road games as follows:

at Utah 2023
at NC State 2026
at Cal 2027
at Arizona State 2028
at Colorado 2029
at Texas and Notre Dame 2031
 
The ACC needs to play nine conference games and eliminate the designated rival. That would allow each school to play all but one conference school every two years.

I'd prefer Wake schedule a larger variety of P5 opponents. The problem may be that schools like South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia etc. view Wake Forest much like we view playing App State or East Carolina. Nothing to be gained and plenty to lose. Maybe the alliance of the ACC, B1G and PAC will broaden the perspective and opportunities for intersectional games. Nine conference games and a game versus a PAC and/or B1G university would enlarge the Deacon footprint.
 
I tend to agree that the designated rivalry is mostly useless. Outside of NC State vs UNC, Wake vs Duke, and FSU vs Miami, I don't think anyone will care. I much prefer 4 pods of 4 teams so that the 4 NC schools play each other every year.
 
BlackjackMc said:
The ACC needs to play nine conference games and eliminate the designated rival. That would allow each school to play all but one conference school every two years.

I'd prefer Wake schedule a larger variety of P5 opponents. The problem may be that schools like South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia etc. view Wake Forest much like we view playing App State or East Carolina. Nothing to be gained and plenty to lose. Maybe the alliance of the ACC, B1G and PAC will broaden the perspective and opportunities for intersectional games. Nine conference games and a game versus a PAC and/or B1G university would enlarge the Deacon footprint.
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I had heard that several Power V programs wanted to play a home and home with WF, including Penn State and S. Carolina, and WF passed. FWIW, S. Carolina played at ECU this year, and they play home and homes at UNC and NC State in the coming years. WF would not have a problem finding Power V programs to play home and home against us.
 
Pilchard said:
I had heard that several Power V programs wanted to play a home and home with WF, including Penn State and S. Carolina, and WF passed. FWIW, S. Carolina played at ECU this year, and they play home and homes at UNC and NC State in the coming years. WF would not have a problem finding Power V programs to play home and home against us.
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I may be entirely wrong but this has Ron "Socks" Wellman written all over it.
 
BlackjackMc said:
The ACC needs to play nine conference games and eliminate the designated rival. That would allow each school to play all but one conference school every two years.

I'd prefer Wake schedule a larger variety of P5 opponents. The problem may be that schools like South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia etc. view Wake Forest much like we view playing App State or East Carolina. Nothing to be gained and plenty to lose. Maybe the alliance of the ACC, B1G and PAC will broaden the perspective and opportunities for intersectional games. Nine conference games and a game versus a PAC and/or B1G university would enlarge the Deacon footprint.
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There's huge gap in a P5 team playing an OCC P5 team and a P5 team playing a Sun Belt team.
 
When they make the ACC schedules does no one consider things like wait a minute, Wake Forest has literally never played at Pitt. I wonder if there are any other scheduling anomalies like that.
 
Feel like what’s getting lost in the discussion is that we schedule teams OOC a few years in advance, and we only schedule teams that we can predictably compete with (and they schedule us for the same reason), thus: Vandy, Army, Ol Miss, ODU, etc. I think if Clawson were able to start winning more conference games and get us to a 8-9 win level consistently then our OOC scheduling might get more competitive.
 
If it's true we turned down Penn State, the only logical explanation could've been that it was right at the height of Sandusky, right? like the worst possible time to announce doing anything with that school even though the games would be in like 2023.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Feel like what’s getting lost in the discussion is that we schedule teams OOC a few years in advance, and we only schedule teams that we can predictably compete with (and they schedule us for the same reason), thus: Vandy, Army, Ol Miss, ODU, etc. I think if Clawson were able to start winning more conference games and get us to a 8-9 win level consistently then our OOC scheduling might get more competitive.
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We scheduled Vandy and UConn. Did we think we were going to suck forever ?
 
BarcaDeac said:
When they make the ACC schedules does no one consider things like wait a minute, Wake Forest has literally never played at Pitt. I wonder if there are any other scheduling anomalies like that.
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Pitt has been in the ACC for 8 years and we have only played them once.
 
BarcaDeac said:
yeah I know, but is there some algorithm that makes it that way or has no one actually stopped and considered things like that.
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The ACC schedule is on a set rotation. There are seven teams in each division, so our 8 conference games consist of 6 games against the other teams in our division, 1 game against our cross-division rival (Duke), and then 1 game against one of the other six teams in the opposite division. It therefore takes 12 years to complete a full a home-and-home with each of those other six teams, and that schedule is set well in advance. We'll complete the cycle in 2024 with a home game against GT. The road game against Pitt is 2023.

https://fbschedules.com/acc-announces-future-football-schedule-rotation-through-2024/#
 
OldGoldBeard said:
The ACC schedule is on a set rotation. There are seven teams in each division, so our 8 conference games consist of 6 games against the other teams in our division, 1 game against our cross-division rival (Duke), and then 1 game against one of the other six teams in the opposite division. It therefore takes 12 years to complete a full a home-and-home with each of those other six teams, and that schedule is set well in advance. We'll complete the cycle in 2024 with a home game against GT. The road game against Pitt is 2023.

https://fbschedules.com/acc-announces-future-football-schedule-rotation-through-2024/#
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so for example, Virginia has not played at Cuse since the Orange joined the ACC

re: scheduling, surely Clawson has at least some input regarding our future schedules, yes? The announcements made during 2021 (both May) were UConn (2024 and 2028) and Georgia State (2029 and 2030). I assume Clawson agreed to those, at a minimum, if not being a major factor in the decision.

As Kent said a while ago on another thread, at some point, if we schedule Vandy and ODU, UConn and Georgia State, etc., and not more premier programs, it's either because we don't want the premier programs, or they don't want us
 
Realign divisions in the ACC and schedule 1/2 more conference games for the ACC and all conferences. SEC rotation sucks as well. As conferences get bigger, the more there is a need to this.
 
The bottom 15 and wannabes of the top 25 don't want to deal with prepping for the Wake offense. From an opposing D-coordinator's perspective, Wake's offense is a pain in the ass to defend. Their guys have to be disciplined. Unless they have an Elite D-line that can just over power Wake's O-line.
 
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