• Welcome to OGBoards 10.0, keep in mind that we will be making LOTS of changes to smooth out the experience here and make it as close as possible functionally to the old software, but feel free to drop suggestions or requests in the Tech Support subforum!

CBSSports.com Top 100 College Bball Players

KanhojiAngre said:
He's really experienced for a junior, having redshirted and played internationally.

They don't really have an elite recruit that figures to push him out. Ben McLemore could take one wing spot, but seems certain that Releford will have the other.

They're gonna play fast and he can play in the open court probably better than their off guards last year.

He's not going to get in foul trouble very often. I think this is a concern with Robinson considering he committed a foul about every 7 minutes last year.

Shooting 50% when you take almost half your shots from 3 is pretty good. He's made a good percentage of his 3's too. Not sure how he "can't hit a jump shot to save his life". Didn't look that way last year.

I thought he should have played more last year. I was never very impressed with Selby or Reed. He played more before Selby became eligible and before he got hurt. Maybe he lost some confidence in that time, or maybe just was the victim of a numbers game or a promise made to Selby, but it shouldn't happen this year.
Click to expand...

I've watched probably 95% of Releford's minutes at KU. He's an awful shooter. His buckets usually come off hustle plays, in garbage time, or as garbage buckets. I guess he maybe runs the floor better than the offguards last year, but that's only if you don't consider the large amount of time that Taylor and Johnson (who run the floor far, far better) spent at the 2, and even then it's debatable, since Reed was at least a comparable athlete who was far more skilled. He will undoubtedly be behind Robinson, Taylor, and Johnson as offensive priorities. He probably won't get as many opportunities as Withey (who sucks) either. You would be very very hard-pressed to find Releford fanboys who would think he would lead the team in offense. Like I said, nice player who hustles and defends, but he doesn't score.

Other things: Ben McLemore won't be taking any minutes, since he's ineligible. Yes, Robinson was in foul trouble, but you have to realize he was also protecting the Morris brothers and figures to have that protection from Withey this year. Not to mention the vast majority of post players start out as foul machines then tend to figure it out or get that protection as upperclassmen.

Again, I don't have a big problem with you not thinking that Robinson won't take that leap to top ten (I disagree because of the reasons in my first post), but even hinting at the possibility of Releford leading the team in scoring jumped out so hard that I had to comment on it. It's asinine.
 
Didn't realize McLemore didn't get cleared. Is there any chance he will be late, or is he definitely DQ?
 
KanhojiAngre said:
Yeah, that hurts.

Guess we'll see what kind of a coach Self is with less than the best talent.
Click to expand...

Thomas Robinson - 5*
Naadir Tharpe - 4*
Connor Teahan - 3*
Jeff Withey - 5*
Tyshawn Taylor - 4*
Elijah Johnson - 4*
Travis Releford - 4*
Jamari Taylor - 3*
---------------------------
Plus McLemore who checks in at 4* and the rest of the roster, which probably could beat ours next year.

Come on. This is like when people said that Duke sucked because their players sucked despite the fact that they were all four and five stars.
 
Strickland33 said:
Thomas Robinson - 5*
Naadir Tharpe - 4*
Connor Teahan - 3*
Jeff Withey - 5*
Tyshawn Taylor - 4*
Elijah Johnson - 4*
Travis Releford - 4*
Jamari Taylor - 3*
---------------------------
Plus McLemore who checks in at 4* and the rest of the roster, which probably could beat ours next year.

Come on. This is like when people said that Duke sucked because their players sucked despite the fact that they were all four and five stars.
Click to expand...

Seriously...let's waste our tears on teams that actually need them lol. Kansas clearly doesn't.

Waaaaah they only have 6 combined 4 and 5 stars instead of 7...what a loss :rulz:
 
How many stars was Shelvin Mack? Gordon Heyward? Matt Howard? Khyle Marshall? Zach Hahn? Ronald Nored? Andrew Smith?
 
KanhojiAngre said:
How many stars was Shelvin Mack? Gordon Heyward? Matt Howard? Khyle Marshall? Zach Hahn? Ronald Nored? Andrew Smith?
Click to expand...

Smith - 3*
Marshall - 3*
Hopkins - 3*
Smeathers 3*
Woods - 3*
Smeathers - 3*
Jones - 3*
Howard - 3*
Hahn - 2*
Mack - 2*
Hayward - 2*
Nored - 2*

Again, what's your point? Kansas is far more *talented* yet nobody is feeling sorry for Brad Stevens. Nor is he feeling sorry for himself...
 
My point, not that it shouldn't have been obvious, is that stars don't mean that much.

Arizona and Kansas fans don't agree on much, but pretty sure they can agree that Jeff Withey is not very good, and I don't think his 5 star rating will do much to dissuade.

I can't believe you bothered to look all those up.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
What the hell are you arguing against now KA? #brokenrecord
Click to expand...

Don't think I'm arguing against anything. Others are arguing against me, as is usually the case.

But somehow, I'm the troublemaker. Not my fault people seem to be obsessed with picking apart every word of mine.

Even when I'm right -- as I have been most of this thread -- I'm wrong in the eyes of many here.

"It's easy to recognize a genius: mediocre people will form coalition against him/her" (J.Swift)
 
Last edited:
Deacsfan27 said:
No you would rather just put down people that do research on things rather than talk out their ass like you do.
Click to expand...

Looking up star ratings counts as research, but a honest comparison of the statistical and team accomplishments of Kevin Durant and Jimmer Fredette draws nothing but ridicule.

Got it.
 
KanhojiAngre said:
Looking up star ratings counts as research, but a honest comparison of the statistical and team accomplishments of Kevin Durant and Jimmer Fredette draws nothing but ridicule.

Got it.
Click to expand...

*an

I don't usually try to draw people like you into arguments, but good lord man do you have to play the other side on every single debate????

WOW
 
KanhojiAngre said:
Don't think I'm arguing against anything. Others are arguing against me, as is usually the case.

But somehow, I'm the troublemaker. Not my fault people seem to be obsessed with picking apart every word of mine.

Even when I'm right -- as I have been most of this thread -- I'm wrong in the eyes of many here.

"It's easy to recognize a genius: mediocre people will form coalition against him/her" (J.Swift)
Click to expand...

Maybe if you didn't just assume you were right all the time you wouldn't be "wrong in the eyes of many here". Most educated people tend to realize this notion...I guess some don't have that opportunity...
 
Deacsfan27 said:
*an

I don't usually try to draw people like you into arguments, but good lord man do you have to play the other side on every single debate????

WOW
Click to expand...

Not sure what you mean.

I'm not the one that started the debate. I wasn't the one that said Fredette was nothing but a chucker and basically made him out to be some 2nd rate player, more or less comparing him to Wayne Ellington.

I'm sorry I refuse to capitulate to such stupidity. Fredette was a helluva player and took a really average team to a solid showing in the NCAA tournament even after they lost their 2nd best player.

Just read the thread before you make your knee jerk reactions please.
 
Literally everyone except for people who went to BYU, other Mormons, and you will look at you like you're stupid for comparing Durant to Jimmer. You are flat wrong, it is ok. You just sucked at your job.
 
KanhojiAngre said:
Not sure what you mean.

I'm not the one that started the debate. I wasn't the one that said Fredette was nothing but a chucker and basically made him out to be some 2nd rate player, more or less comparing him to Wayne Ellington.

I'm sorry I refuse to capitulate to such stupidity. Fredette was a helluva player and took a really average team to a solid showing in the NCAA tournament even after they lost their 2nd best player.

Just read the thread before you make your knee jerk reactions please.
Click to expand...

Fredette was a chucker, he was also a 2nd rate player because he had no other skill aside from making 40% of his shots. Those two are not mutually exclusive.

Comparing Fredette to Durant is literally one of the dumbest arguments I have EVER seen made on these boards.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
Maybe if you didn't just assume you were right all the time you wouldn't be "wrong in the eyes of many here". Most educated people tend to realize this notion...I guess some don't have that opportunity...
Click to expand...

I don't assume I'm right all the time. Most of the time, yes, and I don't thik I'm alone in that regard.

Do some educated people recognize the notion that some people are right more often than others, even if those others don't think so?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top