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2022 Atlanta Braves Season Thread: off season decisions loom

oldschooldeac said:
One down! Need Fried to come up big tomorrow night.
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This. It's a lot to ask, but Atlanta is hot and with Morton out we need to capitalize on this opportunity and take game 2. Great start, but it's not quite "get a split and come home" anymore.
 
The umpire behind the plate was terrible. Hopefully we can get more consistent calls on balls and strikes. We continue to strike out a ton in the playoffs but fortunately still finding ways to win.

Agree that Fried needs to go at least 6, hopefully 7 tonight and rest our reliable bullpen arms. Great opportunity to go home with a 2-0 lead. I don't know who I would trust to start game 5 and would love for that game not to happen :)
 
Just absolutely unforgiveable and the ump should be fired. Based on those numbers, I'm fairly certain all 8 of the incorrect calls went against ATL. 8-8 is very hard to be a coincidence.
 
I suppose this is karma for the Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine years? I'm a Braves fan, but even I will admit we got 1" extra on each side of the plate then. Not that I am excusing the current ump bc two wrongs don't make a right and Maddux was ages ago, but noting the irony.
 
KennyRogersRoast said:
I realize part of being a homer is thinking your team is getting screwed on the calls, but the Braves are getting screwed on the calls. Weren’t the Dodgers favored in all 6 games? I may have not looked at the scorecard from game 6.

That one identified to Riley was high leverage. Also could have given him an incentive to chase some pitches later.
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Yeah, that's the one that really jacks up the run expectancy. If he gets that ball 1 call, Riley is unlikely to swing at balls 2 and 3 within a couple inches of the same spot. The back to back awful strike 3 calls to Duvall and Travis are the ones that really got me off my couch. I don't think I've ever yelled about balls and strikes in my life sitting in front of the TV. My wife made fun of me.
 
awaken said:
I suppose this is karma for the Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine years? I'm a Braves fan, but even I will admit we got 1" extra on each side of the plate then. Not that I am excusing the current ump bc two wrongs don't make a right and Maddux was ages ago, but noting the irony.
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Also a homer but that was a different time when pitchers "earned" strikes and it was an expected part of the game. Umpires are trained not to do that anymore, and nobody pitching for the Dodgers or Astros was earning strikes like M/S/G did. It was just inconsistent umpiring.
 
Funny to listen to Braves fans complain about the strike zone when Tom Glavine lived a ball+ off the outside corner
 
M/S/G was before QuesTec, too. That put an end to those generous calls.

When TV puts that little box on the screen, we can all see for certainty if it was a ball or strike. I'm surprised baseball hasn't gone to an automated ball/strike caller by now. I guess umpire union is stopping it.
 
awaken said:
M/S/G was before QuesTec, too. That put an end to those generous calls.

When TV puts that little box on the screen, we can all see for certainty if it was a ball or strike. I'm surprised baseball hasn't gone to an automated ball/strike caller by now. I guess umpire union is stopping it.
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This is one of those oft-repeated ideas that at face value seems logical, but in practice might well ruin the game.

Better just to accept it and realize that it gives one something to bitch about in the offseason.
 
Dumb question; do they subtly reposition the box based on the player’s height? I would assume so but didn’t know if it was that detailed.
 
DeacDaddy said:
Dumb question; do they subtly reposition the box based on the player’s height? I would assume so but didn’t know if it was that detailed.
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This question was asked during a Cub broadcast this summer. The announcers weren't sure. The production crew came back with an answer several minutes later. The answer was yes and a explanation was given what was involved. I'm not sure if that extends to other networks.
 
You guys realize there’s a concrete definition for a strike zone right? Not hard to adjust a box on TV based on that definition (top of shoulders to bottom of knees).

People bitched about doing away with linespeople and going with Hawkeye in tennis. It’s created a FAR better product. Baseball is long overdue for our robot umpire overlords.
 
Yep we all know how a strike zone works. That’s why I asked if they were adjusting the box.

Difference with tennis is there are lines on the court that the computer can measure. A strike zone is four imaginary lines so it would still be subjective based on where the computer places that box. Could still be an improvement though, just not a guaranteed fix.
 
How can people watch a car drive itself through real-life traffic and think that computers just aren’t smart enough these days to call a strike just because batters are different sizes?

There is zero issue with a computer calling every actual strike a strike and every ball a ball. Any noise about failures or redundancy or accuracy is just noise. The real problems are umpires, traditions, and how many corner/framed pitches will draw irate reactions when they’re called correctly.
 
tigerswood said:
You guys realize there’s a concrete definition for a strike zone right? Not hard to adjust a box on TV based on that definition (top of shoulders to bottom of knees).

People bitched about doing away with linespeople and going with Hawkeye in tennis. It’s created a FAR better product. Baseball is long overdue for our robot umpire overlords.
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how often does top of shoulders get called a strike?
 
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