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2021 Carolina Panthers Thread - Time for the 2022 thread

McAdoo "initially rose to prominence" as OC of the Giants for two seasons where they went 6-10. Given where Wake football is if things are back to normal in the Fall, Sunday may be family day and I just don't bother with what's going on at 1 pm.
 
The thing is, if McCaffrey stays healthy for 85% of the season and Darnold plays like an average quarterback, they'll win between 7 and 11 games. I realize those are big variables, but neither is impossible.
 
Not impossible but highly unlikely.
 
The thing is, if McCaffrey stays healthy for 85% of the season and Darnold plays like an average quarterback, they'll win between 7 and 11 games. I realize those are big variables, but neither is impossible.

How often has Darnold played like an average QB? When you say average QB, I think of guys like Cousins and Jimmy G. Darnold has rarely played in that stratosphere. Throw in a poor OL, Rhule and McAdoo. Mix well. And you think that combination will lead to 7-11 wins? Seriously, what potential starting QBs is Darnold superior to? Maybe Rudolph and Love if Pit and GB start them. But I'd rather have Danny Dimes or Heinicke.
 
That's only two more games than they won this season.

Right. Only one loss was by less than 6 points and next year's schedule looks much tougher. We have the NFC West and AFC North as opposed to the NFC East and AFC East. So winning two more games than this season looks very unlikely.
 
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McAdoo "initially rose to prominence" as OC of the Giants for two seasons where they went 6-10. Given where Wake football is if things are back to normal in the Fall, Sunday may be family day and I just don't bother with what's going on at 1 pm.

LOL. What a fucking dumpster fire.
 
The only way to do this was to hire a new HC (an NFL guy) and let that guy grab a new OC that would be excited at the new situation.

Let me add that McAdoo will be the default interim head coach by game 9.
 
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2021 Carolina Panthers Thread - 5-12, but Rhule is coming back

MacAdoodoo?

LOL I appreciate the acknowledgment that we finally need to tank
 
Based on my info I still don't think Rhule will coach the first game next season. I've talked to a couple of you thru PM about this. And a contributor to that will be the reaction that Tepper sees on this hire. This is a lead balloon
 
The only way to do this was to hire a new HC (an NFL guy) and let that guy grab a new OC that would be excited at the new situation.

Let me add that McAdoo will be the default interim head coach by game 9.

You will probably have a better pool of HC applicants this time next year if you have 1 of the top 2 picks than you would have this year with Darnold as your likely starter. But you better make sure you get 1 of those top 2 picks. So you might want to hold on to Rhule until the bitter end to ensure that.

Also and fwiw, I was reading that the NCSt OT may now go before the Bama OT because of a potential Orlando Brown type situation. There has been some speculation that, at his size, Neal will run a slow 40 and not do great in the agility drills at the underwear olympics.
 
SB Nation calls out the Panthers as the poster child of dumb owner decisions.
https://www.sbnation.com/2022/1/21/...oach-before-gm-vikings-bears-panthers-jaguars

[h=1]NFL teams keep hiring coaches before GMs, and it makes no damn sense[/h]
Ego keeps leading owners to do the stupidest things.



So why do teams keep doing this? Why are owners desperate to make these ass-backwards hires when every shred of logic says they’re doing the wrong thing? Why are teams emulating failing franchises and repeating their mistakes, rather than forge the path of success?
It all comes down to ego.
NFL owners are billionaires. By nature they’re used to everyone telling them how wonderful they are. Entire corporate structures are built to make them feel invincible and worship the ground billionaires walk on. However, when you own a team there’s always one great equalizer: The fans. Sure, the bill or sale might have one name on it, Wikipedia might reflect a single owner — but an NFL team belongs to a city, a state, and beyond. Fans will not suffer bad ownership, and billionaires hate being mocked, so it breeds impatience. A desire to make people happy, and the fastest way to do that is by making a splashy head coaching hire — even if it’s the wrong move.
Coaches are always sexier hires than GMs. It dominates the news cycle. Nobody really cares about a general manager outside of the most die-hard football fans, even if the job ends up being equally, or even more important than the dude making the call on the sidelines. Also, owners know that hiring a winning coach makes them seem like heroes, and are desirous of having more people appreciate them.
So we’re at this point. Owners rolling the dice to try and win big, despite everything telling us it’s the wrong move. Teams are pushing ahead to interview and hire head coaches, then back-fill the GM job and hope it all works together. This is not how the process should work, it’s not how the process does work, and any examples of coaches succeeding without a GM in place first are the exception, not the rule.
The lesson to fans and teams trying this is to step back, wait, and let the process unfold properly. Unless you want to be the next Jaguars or Panthers. If that’s your goal, then go right ahead and plunge into failure.
 
Owning a team seems like fun especially if you care about the team. But it also seems like unnecessary stress for someone worth $16B. Just be an anonymous billionaire and do other baller shit instead of making millions of people hate you because you hired a shithead as head coach and keep losing.
 
For some of these guys it is being in an extremely high dollar fantasy football league.
 
The thing is, if McCaffrey stays healthy for 85% of the season and Darnold plays like an average quarterback, they'll win between 7 and 11 games. I realize those are big variables, but neither is impossible.

nah
 
McAdoo hire will get shit on. He was a good OC for the Giants. Eli had some of his best statistical seasons under him and those teams scored points. Yes, they had Odell but nothing at RB/WR/TE beyond him. He really cut down turnovers and emphasized quick passing. Those teams had bad defenses and a lot of injuries so they weren’t competitive.

He did not know how to be a HC. Botching the Eli benching basically got him run out of town. But he was right on some things. Like wanting to go get Mahomes. And he knew Eli had declined when the team was a bit in denial.

Just sayin.
 
Owning a team seems like fun especially if you care about the team. But it also seems like unnecessary stress for someone worth $16B. Just be an anonymous billionaire and do other baller shit instead of making millions of people hate you because you hired a shithead as head coach and keep losing.

True. But what it must do for your ego when you win a Super Bowl has to be accounted for. And after you’ve made 16 billion you need to chase some new rush I would imagine.
 
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