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2021-22 Men's College Basketball Season - UNC v. Kansas for the Natty

5 games into the Big South tourney:

4 OT games and the other game was decided by a shot at the buzzer.
 
OldGoldBeard said:
Exactly. Here are the current conference standings, with ND's record against each team:

1. Duke 0-1
2. ND N/A
3. UNC 1-0
4. Miami 1-0
5. WF 0-1
6. VPI 0-1
7. UVA 1-0
8. FSU 0-1
9. Syracuse 1-0
10. Clemson 2-0
11. Louisville 2-0
12. BC 1-1
13. Pitt 1-0* (second game Saturday)
14. NCSU 2-0
15. Georgia Tech 2-0
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That's amazing.
 
ND's KP and NET are their main issue. But they do have a win over KY.

UNC is the one that should be highlighted
1. Duke 0-1*
2. ND 0-1
3. UNC n/a
4. Miami 0-1
5. WF 0-1

They are 0-4 against the top of the conf, with a horrible loss to Pitt. There is more of a case to leave UNC out than any other team.
 
OldGoldBeard said:
Exactly. Here are the current conference standings, with ND's record against each team:

1. Duke 0-1
2. ND N/A
3. UNC 1-0
4. Miami 1-0
5. WF 0-1
6. VPI 0-1
7. UVA 1-0
8. FSU 0-1
9. Syracuse 1-0
10. Clemson 2-0
11. Louisville 2-0
12. BC 1-1
13. Pitt 1-0* (second game Saturday)
14. NCSU 2-0
15. Georgia Tech 2-0
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This is damn near statistically impossible.
 
Yes, the ACC essentially scheduled a perfect OOC schedule for ND. Two games series against each of the bottom 6 teams in the ACC.
 
If ND had lost to UNC and Miami to go 0-fer against Duke, UNC, Miami, Wake, and VT, they'd still be tied with us for 5th and slotted in the 6 seed.
 
Pilchard said:
Yes, the ACC essentially scheduled a perfect OOC schedule for ND. Two games series against each of the bottom 6 teams in the ACC.
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And yet, we're 5-2 against those same crappy teams that they're 10-1 against.
 
Close game Richmond-St. Bon. A-10 Tournament ESPN2
 
Feel free to check me on this, but here's what I think our "rooting interest" scorecard looks like today. Spreads are off of the ESPN site, so take them for what they're worth...

12:00 Alabama at LSU (-3.5). LSU to help the NET #.
12:00 UVA(-4.5) at Lousiville. A UVA win could push them above 75 in the NET giving us a 2nd Quad 1 win. Sneaky big game for us.
12:30 Davidson at Dayton(-3.5). Davidson is solidly in and Dayton is far enough off the bubble that this one likely doesn't matter much, but to the extent Davidson is closer to us in seeding I'm for Dayton.
1:00 Miami at Syracuse(-1.5). Watching to see if Buddy is held under 30 points. Though to the extent Miami is a fellow bubble team, we could use them losing.
2:00 Kentucky(-5) at Florida. Florida is on the bubble, so I hope they get trounced.
2:00 Indiana at Purdue(-10). Hoping for bubble team Indiana to lose.
2:00 Virginia Tech(-3) at Clemson. Clemson to keep VaTech off the bubble.
2:00 TCU at West Virginia(-2.5). TCU is listed as an 8 seed. They probably don't have much to worry about after wins against Kansas and Texas Tech lately, but a loss here wouldn't hurt us.
2:30 VMI vs Wofford(-6). A VMI win keeps them in as a certain Q3 win for us.
2:30 Seton Hall at Creighton(-1). Creighton is a 9 seed, so it might be nice for them to take a couple more losses.
3:00 North Texas(-5) at UTEP. North Texas is on the bubble.
3:30 Loyola(-4) vs. Northern Iowa. Loyola could very well be out with a loss.
4:00 Oregon at Washington State(-2). Ducks can't afford a loss.
4:00 Oklahoma at Kansas State(-2.5). Oklahoma's strength of schedule has them on the fringes of the bubble.
4:00 VCU at St. Louis(-2.5). VCU is on the bubble.
4:00 Fresno State at Wyoming(-4). Wyoming was solidly in before a 2-4 stretch the last few weeks.
6:00 unc at duke(-11.5). A UNC loss is probably the right thing for us, but I'll just hope that the earth swallows up Cameron and the rest of the duke campus.
7:00 Georgetown at Xavier(-12.5). Xavier is in free fall and in real trouble if it loses tonight.
8:30 Morehead State vs. Murray State(-7). Murray State here to prevent a bid thief.
8:30 Boise State at Colorado State(-3.5). These are both projected 7 seeds so no real Wake impact, but I'm fascinated to watch this game. Should be a good one.
9:00 St. Johns at Marquette(-4.5). Are the Fightin' Shakas in peril with a couple more losses? Let's find out.
10:30 BYU vs San Francisco(-2). BYU definitely out with a loss, but are they in with a win? Might be a tourney-elimination game.
10:30 San Diego State(-3) at Nevada. SDSU is shown around a 10 seed, so pulling for Nevada here.

Any others we should be keeping track of?
 
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DeacInVermont said:
1:00 Miami at Syracuse(-1.5). Watching to see if Buddy is held under 30 points. Though to the extent Miami is a fellow bubble team, we could use them losing.

2:00 Virginia Tech(-3) at Clemson. VaTech to keep our road win strong.
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I will be pulling for Miami to win as well and move UNC (with a loss) to the 4 seed. Firstly, i prefer an earlier matchup with UNC. Secondly it keeps the potential for a Duke-UNC championship game out.

Also, with VT as a possible threat for a bid if they finish strong, I'm super torn on this one. Will a loss drop them out of Quad 1?
 
wufu bufu said:
I will be pulling for Miami to win as well and move UNC (with a loss) to the 4 seed. Firstly, i prefer an earlier matchup with UNC. Secondly it keeps the potential for a Duke-UNC championship game out.

Also, with VT as a possible threat for a bid if they finish strong, I'm super torn on this one. Will a loss drop them out of Quad 1?
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Definitely not. And a loss would drop them behind us in the NET rankings. Good point.
 
DeacInVermont said:
Feel free to check me on this, but here's what I think our "rooting interest" scorecard looks like today. Spreads are off of the ESPN site, so take them for what they're worth...

12:00 Alabama at LSU (-3.5). LSU to help the NET #.
12:00 UVA(-4.5) at Lousiville. A UVA win could push them above 75 in the NET giving us a 2nd Quad 1 win. Sneaky big game for us.
12:30 Davidson at Dayton(-3.5). Davidson is solidly in and Dayton is far enough off the bubble that this one likely doesn't matter much, but to the extent Davidson is closer to us in seeding I'm for Dayton.
1:00 Miami at Syracuse(-1.5). Watching to see if Buddy is held under 30 points. Though to the extent Miami is a fellow bubble team, we could use them losing.
2:00 Kentucky(-5) at Florida. Florida is on the bubble, so I hope they get trounced.
2:00 Indiana at Purdue(-10). Hoping for bubble team Indiana to lose.
2:00 Virginia Tech(-3) at Clemson. Clemson to keep VaTech off the bubble.
2:00 TCU at West Virginia(-2.5). TCU is listed as an 8 seed. They probably don't have much to worry about after wins against Kansas and Texas Tech lately, but a loss here wouldn't hurt us.
2:30 VMI vs Wofford(-6). A VMI win keeps them in as a certain Q3 win for us.
2:30 Seton Hall at Creighton(-1). Creighton is a 9 seed, so it might be nice for them to take a couple more losses.
3:00 North Texas(-5) at UTEP. North Texas is on the bubble.
3:30 Loyola(-4) vs. Northern Iowa. Loyola could very well be out with a loss.
4:00 Oregon at Washington State(-2). Ducks can't afford a loss.
4:00 Oklahoma at Kansas State(-2.5). Oklahoma's strength of schedule has them on the fringes of the bubble.
4:00 VCU at St. Louis(-2.5). VCU is on the bubble.
4:00 Fresno State at Wyoming(-4). Wyoming was solidly in before a 2-4 stretch the last few weeks.
6:00 unc at duke(-11.5). A UNC loss is probably the right thing for us, but I'll just hope that the earth swallows up Cameron and the rest of the duke campus.
7:00 Georgetown at Xavier(-12.5). Xavier is in free fall and in real trouble if it loses tonight.
8:30 Morehead State vs. Murray State(-7). Murray State here to prevent a bid thief.
8:30 Boise State at Colorado State(-3.5). These are both projected 7 seeds so no real Wake impact, but I'm fascinated to watch this game. Should be a good one.
9:00 St. Johns at Marquette(-4.5). Are the Fightin' Shakas in peril with a couple more losses? Let's find out.
10:30 BYU vs San Francisco(-2). BYU definitely out with a loss, but are they in with a win? Might be a tourney-elimination game.
10:30 San Diego State(-3) at Nevada. SDSU is shown around a 10 seed, so pulling for Nevada here.

Any others we should be keeping track of?
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You put way too much time and thought into this. But thanks. :) I still think we're fine if we win a game or 2 in our tourney. So I still have to root for UVA and VT today. And UNC is going to get thumped by Duke. While I despise Duke more, a bad loss to Duke and losing their 1st ACC tourney game would really have UNC sweating.
 
DeacInVermont said:
Feel free to check me on this, but here's what I think our "rooting interest" scorecard looks like today. Spreads are off of the ESPN site, so take them for what they're worth...

12:00 Alabama at LSU (-3.5). LSU to help the NET #.
12:00 UVA(-4.5) at Lousiville. A UVA win could push them above 75 in the NET giving us a 2nd Quad 1 win. Sneaky big game for us.
12:30 Davidson at Dayton(-3.5). Davidson is solidly in and Dayton is far enough off the bubble that this one likely doesn't matter much, but to the extent Davidson is closer to us in seeding I'm for Dayton.
1:00 Miami at Syracuse(-1.5). Watching to see if Buddy is held under 30 points. Though to the extent Miami is a fellow bubble team, we could use them losing.
2:00 Kentucky(-5) at Florida. Florida is on the bubble, so I hope they get trounced.
2:00 Indiana at Purdue(-10). Hoping for bubble team Indiana to lose.
2:00 Virginia Tech(-3) at Clemson. Clemson to keep VaTech off the bubble.
2:00 TCU at West Virginia(-2.5). TCU is listed as an 8 seed. They probably don't have much to worry about after wins against Kansas and Texas Tech lately, but a loss here wouldn't hurt us.
2:30 VMI vs Wofford(-6). A VMI win keeps them in as a certain Q3 win for us.
2:30 Seton Hall at Creighton(-1). Creighton is a 9 seed, so it might be nice for them to take a couple more losses.
3:00 North Texas(-5) at UTEP. North Texas is on the bubble.
3:30 Loyola(-4) vs. Northern Iowa. Loyola could very well be out with a loss.
4:00 Oregon at Washington State(-2). Ducks can't afford a loss.
4:00 Oklahoma at Kansas State(-2.5). Oklahoma's strength of schedule has them on the fringes of the bubble.
4:00 VCU at St. Louis(-2.5). VCU is on the bubble.
4:00 Fresno State at Wyoming(-4). Wyoming was solidly in before a 2-4 stretch the last few weeks.
6:00 unc at duke(-11.5). A UNC loss is probably the right thing for us, but I'll just hope that the earth swallows up Cameron and the rest of the duke campus.
7:00 Georgetown at Xavier(-12.5). Xavier is in free fall and in real trouble if it loses tonight.
8:30 Morehead State vs. Murray State(-7). Murray State here to prevent a bid thief.
8:30 Boise State at Colorado State(-3.5). These are both projected 7 seeds so no real Wake impact, but I'm fascinated to watch this game. Should be a good one.
9:00 St. Johns at Marquette(-4.5). Are the Fightin' Shakas in peril with a couple more losses? Let's find out.
10:30 BYU vs San Francisco(-2). BYU definitely out with a loss, but are they in with a win? Might be a tourney-elimination game.
10:30 San Diego State(-3) at Nevada. SDSU is shown around a 10 seed, so pulling for Nevada here.

Any others we should be keeping track of?
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Exhibit A as to the drawbacks of Wake being good again and March games mattering again, so we now waste March mins with in-depth analytics and pre-tourney scouting and actually caring about my March bracket pools! Love it!
 
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