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2022 Football Deacs Season Thread (what a shitty end. fuck duke.)

I don-t know why we can't find someone who can kickoff into the end zone. After opponents kicked off, we normally start off on the 25 yard line. Our opponents more often are at the 35or better because in additiion to not kicking to the end zone, our ko coverage was horrible. It-s been that way forever it seems.. A kicker who can reach the end zone and, with a few exceptions, a bunch of new defensive players would make me happy.
 
We start off on the 25 because Clawson doesn't even bother returning from inside the 5.
 
wakefan1995 said:
I’ve heard it from 2 different people on campus so someone else hearing the same thing means it’s more than likely true.
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Deac65 said:
I don-t know why we can't find someone who can kickoff into the end zone. After opponents kicked off, we normally start off on the 25 yard line. Our opponents more often are at the 35or better because in additiion to not kicking to the end zone, our ko coverage was horrible. It-s been that way forever it seems.. A kicker who can reach the end zone and, with a few exceptions, a bunch of new defensive players would make me happy.
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getting touchbacks is particularly important for us since our redshirting / development philosophy and lack of good PWOs mean we have a lot fewer ST options than other schools. KRs are also big time injury risks, which is particularly bad for thin teams like ours (part of why we opt to fair catch as often as possible)

clawson did allude to our incoming freshman kicker as we are planning on handling kickoffs.
 
Deac65 said:
I don-t know why we can't find someone who can kickoff into the end zone. After opponents kicked off, we normally start off on the 25 yard line. Our opponents more often are at the 35or better because in additiion to not kicking to the end zone, our ko coverage was horrible. It-s been that way forever it seems.. A kicker who can reach the end zone and, with a few exceptions, a bunch of new defensive players would make me happy.
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This is the exact reason why deferring helped opponents start quickly and score points. Never understood why Clawson continued this as the season has gone on. With poor kicking and coverage, one would think you should take the ball first and come out wanting to score first. Especially with the defensive woes
 
BoDeac said:
This is the exact reason why deferring helped opponents start quickly and score points. Never understood why Clawson continued this as the season has gone on. With poor kicking and coverage, one would think you should take the ball first and come out wanting to score first. Especially with the defensive woes
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100% agree. Wish Les or someone would ask him about this directly because for a guy who makes data-driven decisions often, this wasn’t one of them.
 
OldGouldandBlack said:
It also felt like almost all our deferred 2nd half opening drives were terrible. Maybe that’s not backed up, I don’t know, but it definitely felt that way.
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Yes, it seems like 90% of the 1st possessions to start the 2nd half went 3 and out.
 
Think I read something like coming into the Duke game, our first drives of the third quarter resulted in six punts, three TDs and one INT.
 
BiffTannen said:
He has immunity.
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For a few months? (that's all an infection or a vaccination will give you)

(If this is a continuation of an inside joke, it went over my head. I thought the Brett Griffis / vaccine comment was an inside joke, so...)
 
SkyDivingDeacon said:
100% agree. Wish Les or someone would ask him about this directly because for a guy who makes data-driven decisions often, this wasn’t one of them.
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He talked about it two weeks ago.

John Dell: "With the slow starts, is it maybe if you win the flip, take the ball? Is it that simple, that if you win the flip, you take the ball?"

Clawson: "No, it's never that simple because we've lost the flip, started with the ball, and still started out down 14-0. We haven't always won the flip."

Dell: "Yeah OK, but like, maybe if you just go out and score ..."

Clawson: "Yeah, I just don't like to ever take the chance, if you can help it, of letting the other team finish with the ball at the end of the second quarter and then start with the ball in the third quarter. You start adding up, OK, let's say they get the ball with 5 minutes left in the second quarter and they go down and score, and you don't get the ball back. And then you go in for halftime and that's 15-20 minutes. You come back out and you kick them the ball. There's a chance your offense isn't going to get to play football and get in a rhythm for a half hour, 45 minutes.

"I just have always been, my whole career, I believe in deferring. I think I get a better feel for the game, of how are doing on defense. Is this a game that we have to play fast, or do we slow it down? Is this a game that we're going to have to be a little bit more aggressive on fourth downs? I get the knowledge of one more series of one more series of watching us play defense if I do that.

"People have different feelings on that. That's always how I've managed it. I'll continue to manage it that way until I think there's a reason to do something else."
 
But his data driven is about "teams" in general not wake specific. I think that is why some of the calls are out of touch. It's straight math without edit.
 
We are fitting right in with the rest. Fans all over the ACC hating on their football coaches. NC State been doing it for years. UNC fans on triple hate for their coach. Clemson fans going sour on Dabo. Louisville wants their coach gone and have for two years. In fact, as I see it, the only fans in ACC who like their coach right now are Duke fans. FSU fans are lightening up a little too. I like our coach. He's a great football coach.
 
I’m too demoralized to go back and look, but there’s an easy way to look into the question. Go back and look how we did (against the spread or otherwise) in games we started on defense (which means we won the toss or the other team took the ball), vs games we start with the ball (we lost the toss and they deferred).

It’s probably around a 3x bigger sample size of us starting on defense, but with Clawson having played over 100 games at Wake it’s probably enough to make some sort of conclusion.
 
CONeill said:
He talked about it two weeks ago.

John Dell: "With the slow starts, is it maybe if you win the flip, take the ball? Is it that simple, that if you win the flip, you take the ball?"

Clawson: "No, it's never that simple because we've lost the flip, started with the ball, and still started out down 14-0. We haven't always won the flip."

Dell: "Yeah OK, but like, maybe if you just go out and score ..."

Clawson: "Yeah, I just don't like to ever take the chance, if you can help it, of letting the other team finish with the ball at the end of the second quarter and then start with the ball in the third quarter. You start adding up, OK, let's say they get the ball with 5 minutes left in the second quarter and they go down and score, and you don't get the ball back. And then you go in for halftime and that's 15-20 minutes. You come back out and you kick them the ball. There's a chance your offense isn't going to get to play football and get in a rhythm for a half hour, 45 minutes.

"I just have always been, my whole career, I believe in deferring. I think I get a better feel for the game, of how are doing on defense. Is this a game that we have to play fast, or do we slow it down? Is this a game that we're going to have to be a little bit more aggressive on fourth downs? I get the knowledge of one more series of one more series of watching us play defense if I do that.

"People have different feelings on that. That's always how I've managed it. I'll continue to manage it that way until I think there's a reason to do something else."
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Interesting. Thanks, Conor. Missed this exchange, and obviously there’s more to it and DC knows a lot more than I do about football. That said, the whole ‘I’ve always deferred and plan to keep deferring until there’s a reason to do differently’ points to a pretty stubborn person. Your defense sucks, your offense is pretty damn good. Is that not reason enough to try something different?
 
Why play from behind when you have one of the most prolific QB's in ACC history along with an extremely capable corps of receivers? Take the opening kickoff, shove it down the opposing team's throat, and play to win. Questioning a coach's motives when the same bad things happen over and over during a disappointing season isn't hating.
 
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