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COVID Thread 2: Operation Ludicrous Speed ! (Super Political!!!)

in the context of a public health information campaign, "most" should equal "almost everybody". Harris could have skipped the first sentence entirely.

On October 12, 2022, CDC tweeted a recommendation that everyone 2 months or more out from their last booster should get another shot. So now, 7 weeks later, we're confident no new variants will emerge and everyone's good for a year?

Asking WFU71 if he or anyone in his family is dead yet from a virus that causes...death is poor form

WFU71 - hope you and yours are better soon
 
BiffTannen said:
So where is the straightforward statement from Fauci or the administration that that's what they mean ? Because what we're getting is this type of talk from Harris (who absolutely nobody likes, btw), and people are being left to decide for themselves whether the government is telling us the truth or if the anti-vax wackos are actually onto something.

I understand that the administration would rather not discuss Covid anymore and just declare that Covid is over, but they could do a better job of explaining exactly how effective the vaccines have been, as well as cleaning up the promises that were made about their effectiveness two years ago.
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Explaining the effectiveness of vaccines isn’t going to matter to people who aren’t vaccinated. Which is the main problem.
 
PhDeac said:
Explaining the effectiveness of vaccines isn’t going to matter to people who aren’t vaccinated. Which is the main problem.
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And gaslighting the people who went and got the vaccines isn't going to help either.
 
BiffTannen said:
And gaslighting the people who went and got the vaccines isn't going to help either.
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who is getting gaslit here?

if you get in a car accident wearing a seat belt and sustain injuries, you're not disproving the efficacy of seatbelts

though you're also not dead, so they did in fact protect you
 
Strickland33 said:
who is getting gaslit here?

if you get in a car accident wearing a seat belt and sustain injuries, you're not disproving the efficacy of seatbelts

though you're also not dead, so they did in fact protect you
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Anybody who hears this would reasonably think that if they get an annual Covid booster they won't get Covid.

Seatbelts don't prevent automobile accidents.

"One shot, once a year—that’s all most people will need to stay protected from COVID year-long. Make a plan to get your shot..."
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People are so god damn sensitive these days and want to parse every little thing. Trauma from the last three years or something but if you assume covid is slightly more deadly than flu, you are almost there in getting covid deaths to about average number of flu deaths per a year and that’s with the crazy public health misinformation and refusal from conservatives to do any precautionary measure. Like back 5 years ago you could be a 40 year old going about your life and die from flu, it sucks but for whatever reason that’s just the way life works.
 
BiffTannen said:
Anybody who hears this would reasonably think that if they get an annual Covid booster they won't get Covid.

Seatbelts don't prevent automobile accidents.
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I am not really sure that anybody who hears this would reasonably think that. I’ve heard dozens of NPR stories over the last 1.5 years, read news article, and even seen virologists twitter threads that explain how the vaccine works and how widespread mild to moderate “break through” infections are likely but that reducing severe illness and death is the goal. There is no way any moderately informed person hasn’t gotten that message yet. If you have that prior knowledge base and then you read her tweet about one annual booster will be enough to prevent Covid, it’s a bit of a bold prediction but there is nothing really wrong with the tweet. If that tweet is the first and only thing you’ve ever read about Covid and the vaccines then I guess you’d justifiable confused.
 
The original messaging on the vaccines was extremely optimistic. The current messaging on the vaccines is needlessly optimistic.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
Biff is so god damn sensitive these days and want to parse every little thing. Trauma from the last three years or something but if you assume covid is slightly more deadly than flu, you are almost there in getting covid deaths to about average number of flu deaths per a year and that’s with the crazy public health misinformation and refusal from conservatives to do any precautionary measure. Like back 5 years ago you could be a 40 year old going about your life and die from flu, it sucks but for whatever reason that’s just the way life works.
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fify
 
Meh. I'd rather just see Biden and Co shove facts down everyone's throats whether it's good news or bad.
 
Seatbelts don't prevent automobile accidents.
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Exactly.

And Covid vaccination doesn’t prevent the virus getting into your airway.

But if other safety features, including your reasonable vigilance, fail and you find yourself in a car accident (or infected) the seatbelt/vaccine will reduce the risk of harm.
 
ConnorEl said:
Exactly.

And Covid vaccination doesn’t prevent the virus getting into your airway.

But if other safety features, including your reasonable vigilance, fail and you find yourself in a car accident (or infected) the seatbelt/vaccine will reduce the risk of harm.
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So, one shot is not ALL most people will need (contrary to what the VP tweeted)

They should also maintain a level of vigilance. Got it!
 
This is a lot of effort to remind us that the vp is terrible. I wonder why.
 
I voted for the vp

I’m glad she won the election

Her tweet is poor public health messaging
 
“One shot, once a year—that's all most people will need to stay protected from COVID year-long. Make a plan to get your shot”

I think it would have helped for her to add “..stay protected from the worst symptoms of COVID, or some additional line that makes clear that the booster doesn’t prevent you from getting sick, but protects you from getting seriously ill.

I do agree that the administration is leaning too heavily on advertising boosters to prevent COVID, because they know how politically unpopular it is to encourage people to keep wearing masks and socially distance. All the conservative propaganda now about COVID is saying that all the precautions we took during the pandemic were unnecessary, so I don’t know how we are supposed to keep pushing the precautions now.
 
Really hard to explain to a bunch of dumb fucks that think the earth is 6,000 years old and evolution is just the devil testing us that something evolved over the course of 3 years so that what once was in 2020 does not completely apply in 2022.
 
Not to mention their own views don't evolve when given more information either.
 
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