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Saudi World Golf Tour 2022/2023 Thread

I'd been wondering how the DP tour was going to survive with their 10 best players getting PGA Tour cards every season. This answers it.

It sounds like both tours negotiated this behind the players' backs, while letting them go out and deliver messages opposite to what was really happening.
 
Liquid Karma said:
I'd been wondering how the DP tour was going to survive with their 10 best players getting PGA Tour cards every season. This answers it.

It sounds like both tours negotiated this behind the players' backs, while letting them go out and deliver messages opposite to what was really happening.
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p crazy this dropped with zero leaks ahead of time
 
TheReff said:
PGA had so many secrets & skeletons in their closet that were going to come out in the courts, they had no choice!
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I doubt it. The only player even left in the lawsuit was Mickelson. This was 100% about money. It always is.

My guess is some combination of the following happened:

1) Sponsors balked at the heavy sponsorship costs

2) The DP Tour saw that their tour was being gutted and their business model was failing and probably started to negotiated a merger with LIV, at which time the PGA Tour realized any leverage they had with players would be gone.

3) The Saudi's probably brought a fuck you level of money to the table that the PGA Tour, acting on behalf of players, couldn't turn down.

In the end it was always about money.
 
WindyCityDeac said:
I'll be interested to see if people level the same criticism at the PGA for accepting Saudi money as they did LIV. Like it or not, Saudi money is everywhere. their money is inevitable
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Most all the sponsors in the PGA tour do business with Aramco and other Saudi companies. The media driven sports washing narrative last year was just a typical political narrative. The U.S. and all our companies do business with Saudi. Oil & nat gas is not going away. (Even for EV cars, 5 gallons of oil is needed to produce 1 tire for a car)
 
Liquid Karma said:
I doubt it. The only player even left in the lawsuit was Mickelson. This was 100% about money. It always is.

My guess is some combination of the following happened:

1) Sponsors balked at the heavy sponsorship costs

2) The DP Tour saw that their tour was being gutted and their business model was failing and probably started to negotiated a merger with LIV, at which time the PGA Tour realized any leverage they had with players would be gone.

3) The Saudi's probably brought a fuck you level of money to the table that the PGA Tour, acting on behalf of players, couldn't turn down.

In the end it was always about money.
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Think #3 is the biggest catalyst. PGA Tour's war-chest was getting tapped out; also, no one was watching LIV; what the Saudis wanted was a seat at the big boy sports table. They have that now, and they will gladly pay for it by funding the US and Euro tours. The PGA players are pissed, but the PGA Tour will use the cash infusion to temper the anger.
 
I may be one of the few people who actually likes the team concept in theory - if they can make it like F1 in some sense.

So, the Saudis now own Formula 1, professional golf, and a decent foothold in professional soccer.

I'm not kidding when I wonder if they will make a run for football here in the US next.
 
Liquid Karma said:
I may be one of the few people who actually likes the team concept in theory - if they can make it like F1 in some sense.

So, the Saudis now own Formula 1, professional golf, and a decent foothold in professional soccer.

I'm not kidding when I wonder if they will make a run for football here in the US next.
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LK I think it will be basketball.
 
Liquid Karma said:
I may be one of the few people who actually likes the team concept in theory - if they can make it like F1 in some sense.

So, the Saudis now own Formula 1, professional golf, and a decent foothold in professional soccer.

I'm not kidding when I wonder if they will make a run for football here in the US next.
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Draw names for four-man teams on Wednesday.
 
Liquid Karma said:
I doubt it. The only player even left in the lawsuit was Mickelson. This was 100% about money. It always is.

My guess is some combination of the following happened:

1) Sponsors balked at the heavy sponsorship costs

2) The DP Tour saw that their tour was being gutted and their business model was failing and probably started to negotiated a merger with LIV, at which time the PGA Tour realized any leverage they had with players would be gone.

3) The Saudi's probably brought a fuck you level of money to the table that the PGA Tour, acting on behalf of players, couldn't turn down.

In the end it was always about money.
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PGA tour gutted the DP world tour as many Europeans have said and blamed the PGA for their demise. As many have said in both on & off the record interviews—many skeletons to come out. (Most likely the collusion with advertisers and providers NOT to help LIV. Which stifles competition)
 
You can pretty much kiss charitable donations to anything that offends the Muslim world goodbye. They've mostly put a stop to F1 racers making any sort of political or social statements.
 
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