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deaconson said:
That provided, literally, nothing but feelings (didn't we hear "fuck your feelings snowflake" from the GQP for years?

Well, they're still "governing" by feelings rather than facts over there.
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Yeah, but pops feels constantly attacked on the tunnels, so I was trying to be polite and thank him for at least trying to respond.
 
birdman said:
Yeah, but pops feels constantly attacked on the tunnels, so I was trying to be polite and thank him for at least trying to respond.
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Pops is open. He's not dumb. He sees what the republican party has become. We've been open with him. He sticks around despite our, more than ribbing at times. He's just not quite ready to take the last few steps.
 
oh wait I misread, no I don't think there are Kamala stans on here but I am sure they exist in the wild
 
deaconson said:
Pops is open. He's not dumb. He sees what the republican party has become. We've been open with him. He sticks around despite our, more than ribbing at times. He's just not quite ready to take the last few steps.
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No Pops is being objective something that Dems on this thread refuse to be. Heads in the sand, same lack of awareness that cost them the election in '16.
That POS can win in 2024. The conditions that existed in 2020 are different today. Hopefully this Ticket can get them over the top. If not, they will only have themselves to blame.
 
DeacsPop said:
No Pops is being objective something that Dems on this thread refuse to be. Heads in the sand, same lack of awareness that cost them the election in '16.
That POS can win in 2024. The conditions that existed in 2020 are different today. Hopefully this Ticket can get them over the top. If not, they will only have themselves to blame.
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Who else is it going to be if Biden is too old and Kamala isn't presidential?
 
DeacsPop said:
No Pops is being objective something that Dems on this thread refuse to be. Heads in the sand, same lack of awareness that cost them the election in '16.
That POS can win in 2024. The conditions that existed in 2020 are different today. Hopefully this Ticket can get them over the top. If not, they will only have themselves to blame.
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Lack of awareness is certainly a factor with many dems. The far more alarming lack of awareness is with your fellow republicans about what your party has become and what they are trying to do.

Living in the reagan era shining house on a hill bs brought us here.
 
I don't think it's having "heads in the sand" to say "don't fix what aint broken".

It worked in 2020 and the ticket is designed to cover different parts of the Democratic party in different states. Why would anybody change it?
 
Would I prefer a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren ticket in 2024? Hell yeah, but that's not going to win the White House.

I don't think it's overstating it to say that democracy as we know it is on the line next November, and the sitting POTUS and VP have the best chance of delivering the win to the Democrats.
 
deaconson said:
Lack of awareness is certainly a factor with many dems. The far more alarming lack of awareness is with your fellow republicans about what your party has become and what they ate trying to do.

Living in the reagan era shining house on a hill bs brought us here.
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And there it is. A 2023 Biden/Harris Democrat. I rest my case.
 
outlining a scenario that makes a Biden ticket more palatable to you personally is pretty much the opposite of an objective viewpoint.

You don’t have to be a personal fan of Kamala Harris to objectively consider the notion that it doesn’t necessarily make sense to replace the VP slot on an incumbent ticket.
 
birdman said:
Oh good, we are already blaming Dems for losing because 47% of the population are gonna vote for an obviously fascist political party.
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It does feel super weird that we are debating whether or not we should go Harris or Newsome, when the other party is actively in the process of putting up a guy who was trying to overthrow the government 2 years ago and has been indicted four times.

Two pretty different problems.
 
I interact with some Kamala stans online. It's fascinating. They actually follow the news so they know what she does.

Seriously, if you want to know what the VP is up to just search for her and bypass the conservative media hit jobs. You'll find her daily schedule and see some of her speeches.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
It does feel super weird that we are debating whether or not we should go Harris or Newsome, when the other party is actively in the process of putting up a guy who was trying to overthrow the government 2 years ago and has been indicted four times.

Two pretty different problems.
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and that assuming this guy wins his primary he will not select his previous running mate, who is also currently running against him in the primary
 
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