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Chat Thread LXIX - Nespresso Monsters

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DeacsATS said:
Gonna need to show me some examples here. The artists benefit directly from this. The 3rd party is not minting money. It is the venues and the artists that are getting the lion's share.
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Also I wonder, is Taylor Swift more popular because her ticket prices are insanely expensive? Is an artists popularity artificially created by ticket prices?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
The implication of critical theory as perspective on traditional psychology is that traditional psychology is incomplete without adequately considering how society acts upon a person. That’s my understanding
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he's probably more qualified to speak on this because i don't study psychology
 
DeacsATS said:
Gonna need to show me some examples here. The artists benefit directly from this. The 3rd party is not minting money. It is the venues and the artists that are getting the lion's share.
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Lol no, Livenation made 16.7 Bn last year last time I checked, and all my favorite bands can’t afford to tour anymore.

www.businessinsider.com

It's not just Taylor Swift: Musicians struggle to afford touring

A pure love of touring and music isn't enough to pay the bills. But that's the trade-off industry realities are forcing artists to make.
www.businessinsider.com
 
unless you count psychoanalysis as psychology and the textbooks usually don't
 
TownieDeac said:
What if I told you music promoting is, effectively, a monopoly that the government should have an interest in regulating? Like, if you’re gonna be some robotic libertarian about something like attending concerts, can you admit more competition might be good? If the companies putting on shows are this necessary evil, wouldn’t having alternatives be a good thing?
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Are you actually telling me or is this a real what if?
Actually asking...not being a smartass
 
WindyCityDeac said:
Also I wonder, is Taylor Swift more popular because her ticket prices are insanely expensive? Is an artists popularity artificially created by ticket prices?
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A very interesting question, one which offers some interesting parallels with the visual arts, and I’d add a third dimension, which is does it suggest also higher quality?
 
WindyCityDeac said:
Also I wonder, is Taylor Swift more popular because her ticket prices are insanely expensive? Is an artists popularity artificially created by ticket prices?
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Absolutely not. Taylor Swift is just insanely popular and has a very dedicated fanbase
 
ideology is the superstructure that makes u think paying $3,000 to see Taylor Swift will complete u
 
Kory said:
he's probably more qualified to speak on this because i don't study psychology
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My main introduction/familiarity to critical theory is the politically motivated dismissal of evolutionary psychology theory as racist. I am probably sensitive to it as a political mission more than a school of thought.
 
TownieDeac said:
What if I told you music promoting is, effectively, a monopoly that the government should have an interest in regulating? Like, if you’re gonna be some robotic libertarian about something like attending concerts, can you admit more competition might be good? If the companies putting on shows are this necessary evil, wouldn’t having alternatives be a good thing?
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The problem is the venues. They love LiveNation. They want to lock in deals for as long as the government will allow (I think 10 years is the max now). An artist could, in theory, do whatever they want to do... But they have to have a venue at which to play their music. Those are limited.
 
DeacsATS said:
The problem is the venues. They love LiveNation. They want to lock in deals for as long as the government will allow (I think 10 years is the max now). An artist could, in theory, do whatever they want to do... But they have to have a venue at which to play their music. Those are limited.
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y not play in some farmer's field 20 miles outside each city
 
Kory said:
unless you count psychoanalysis as psychology and the textbooks usually don't
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I have seen some people debating this recently and I was surprised to learn that. All the intro to Psych and Human sexuality classes I have taken studied Freud in depth. When was Psychoanalysis removed from the field?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
My main introduction/familiarity to critical theory is the politically motivated dismissal of evolutionary psychology theory as racist.
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oh man crit theory is way more than that - a deeply anti-fascist practice - very little to do with fighting with pop psych

see Gramsci for ex
 
DeacsATS said:
The problem is the venues. They love LiveNation. They want to lock in deals for as long as the government will allow (I think 10 years is the max now). An artist could, in theory, do whatever they want to do... But they have to have a venue at which to play their music. Those are limited.
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a lot of the Ticketmaster venues are publicly owned (but I think LN owns a lot of their own venues??), so are they generating a lot of revenue for the community or should they be better looking out for their residents by working to make more affordable ticket options?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
I have seen some people debating this recently and I was surprised to learn that. All the intro to Psych and Human sexuality classes I have taken studied Freud in depth. When was Psychoanalysis removed from the field?
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pop psych basically abandons everything after Freud afaik

how in-depth did u study Freud
 
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