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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

sailordeac said:
you couldn't even get what she said right, and then went and made up stuff, pathetic
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You couldn't even get that I didn't quote her and then made this up. Typical. Maintain hateful outrage at all times.
 
sailordeac said:
Marianne Williamson
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So you’re going to vote for trump over any of the viable candidates that will get the nomination. Glad you’ve finally come clean, even though you “don’t support him.” Nice.
 
Everyone makes endless mistakes. Yours was that you didn't even point out a mistake. You just made something up.

Anyway, the guy who asked Pete to just tell black people to stop committing crimes is a writer for the conservative Powerline blog.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/04/buttigieg-racism-question-south-bend-1398969

Begley said he was not a member of the Carroll County Democratic Party but he came to the event because he writes for the conservative Powerline blog and there would be a "full report on this."
Begley told reporters after the question-and-answer session said he resented Buttigieg’s response. Begley said he didn’t think his comment was racist.
“I just urged him in order to resolve the racial controversy in South Bend, is to urge the blacks in South Bend to obey the law so they’re not going to have confrontations with the police, and he dismissed me as a racist which I resented and he knows he’s wrong,” Begley said. “Because in Chicago 20 black people are probably going to get shot this weekend. I don’t think 20 black people should get shot.”
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The fact that he doesn’t think that statement is racist is just a perfect encapsulation of everything wrong with conservatives
 
Strickland33 said:
If you don’t want trump to win, then you (and the rest of us) better knock on doors for whoever wins the nomination.

Now isn’t exactly the time for ideological stands and civic apathy...
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Oh I’m with you. Trust me. I knocked on doors for Democratic congressional candidates in swing districts in 18 and I plan to do the same in 20.

Fortunately I have a lot of classic Republican (before the party went completely batshit)-type and independent friends who pretty much feel the same way I do but aren’t as vocal. However there are still a few of them who dislike like Trump but are also buying into the “Lube dems are all socialists” rhetoric. My fear is that this group will do something stupid like vote for a third party.
 
DDA said:
So you’re going to vote for trump over any of the viable candidates that will get the nomination. Glad you’ve finally come clean, even though you “don’t support him.” Nice.
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leaping to unwarranted conclusions is one of your bad habits, work on getting rid of it
 
sailordeac said:
leaping to unwarranted conclusions is one of your bad habits, work on getting rid of it
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If it wasn’t unwarranted, you would post which Dems would you vote for over Trump.
 
sailordeac said:
leaping to unwarranted conclusions is one of your bad habits, work on getting rid of it
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It was a simple question. The evasion in your answer warranted his conclusion. If there is a more accurate conclusion, then provide more information.
 
sailordeac said:
leaping to unwarranted conclusions is one of your bad habits, work on getting rid of it
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Unwarranted? I asked you a simple question, who of the Dems would you vote for who are running, and you said Williamson. So, I correctly assumed you wouldn't vote for any of the other viable Dem candidates, because you would've listed others, so you're going to vote for Trump vs. Biden/Booker/Warren/Harris/Mayor Pete/Bernie/etc. Please explain how that is unwarranted. I gave you an opportunity to explain who you'd vote for of the Dems, and you made your statement. It's on you for being unclear, man. So either A) you're voting for Trump, or B) you're voting 3rd party. Which is it?
 
Commentary from the Sailor Moon world:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3761841/posts

Establishment Democrats are too corrupt and too used to pandering to possibly figure this out. Trump is trying, but he is constrained by law, the enemies of America and of civilized Americans are not so constrained. We are rapidly heading toward an untenable situation: armed insurrection by the Antifa terrorists.

The only saving grace I can see is that the tipping point into deadly violence will so confound and degrade support for any Democrat, that they will lose the election, and that law enforcement can regain control in the “Blue” sewers of Progressivism that are burdening our nation today. I do not see a sudden return to sanity, without a lot of criminal violence on the part of the Left.

I do hope that the coming revelations regarding the vast extent of corruption and abuse of power we have seen by the Obama cabal will sink any chances for a Democrat win in 2020, and hopefully regain the House to end their idiocy. But, the die is cast, an attempt at violent revolution is in progress. Call me a pessimist if you like. I will gladly admit that I am wrong if events don’t bear out. But, here we are, and there is so much more to come.
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I have been sick of democrates since I was 10. Not a single democrate have I ever really felt safe talking around. they are all hugs and kisses with everyone until yoi challenge their beliefs, then they come at you with both guns blazing and they bring all their hellish socialist friends guns blazing with them against you. I hated voting for juan Mcrap, and mittins 💩 pants. but it was better than dipshit commie, non citizen, mohamed rot in hell following , anti american , limpwristed, dike marrying, barry sotero.
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Even if there was such a person, they would likely be subjected to immediate controlling measures, such as blackmail or the murder of themselves and their family members if they dare go against what the handlers order them to do. Democrat party gotta keep the corruption going, and the money rolling in. (See: Clintons).
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I'm sure these people will be open to honest discussions held in good faith.
 
DDA said:
Unwarranted? I asked you a simple question, who of the Dems would you vote for who are running, and you said Williamson. So, I correctly assumed you wouldn't vote for any of the other viable Dem candidates, because you would've listed others, so you're going to vote for Trump vs. Biden/Booker/Warren/Harris/Mayor Pete/Bernie/etc. Please explain how that is unwarranted. I gave you an opportunity to explain who you'd vote for of the Dems, and you made your statement. It's on you for being unclear, man. So either A) you're voting for Trump, or B) you're voting 3rd party. Which is it?
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Not voting for the Dems you list is not the same as voting for Trump. If you can't understand that, and you appear repeatedly to have demonstrated that you can't, then you cannot be a part of any reasonable discussion about the presidential election in 2020.
 
sailordeac said:
Not voting for the Dems you list is not the same as voting for Trump. If you can't understand that, and you appear repeatedly to have demonstrated that you can't, then you cannot be a part of any reasonable discussion about the presidential election in 2020.
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yes, it is, you doofus
 
ConnorEl said:
These days it might just mean, in contrast to the insanity of Pubs, to embrace collectivism as a rational way to address common problems. And to not lie about everything.
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Uh, ok. What actual policies are critical for the 2019/20 "Democrat"?
 
Buttermaker said:
Uh, ok. What actual policies are critical for the 2019/20 "Democrat"?
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medicare for all/universal healthcare, comprehensive immigration reform (and abolishing ICE), supply and demand-side housing policy reform at the federal level, withdrawing troops/cutting military spending, the family bill of rights (Gillibrand!), campaign finance reform, expansion of welfare programs, resume funding higher education (community college and public universities), continued sentencing reform and other forms of criminal justice reform, tax reform, etc.

What actual policies are critical for the 2019/20 "Republican?"
 
Strickland33 said:
medicare for all/universal healthcare, comprehensive immigration reform (and abolishing ICE), supply and demand-side housing policy reform at the federal level, withdrawing troops/cutting military spending, the family bill of rights (Gillibrand!), campaign finance reform, expansion of welfare programs, resume funding higher education (community college and public universities), continued sentencing reform and other forms of criminal justice reform, tax reform, etc.

What actual policies are critical for the 2019/20 "Republican?"
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Ambitious list but well-thought out. You will have to ask a Republican. Good question.
 
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