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2020 Presidential Election: Biden v. Trump

If you think the polling is off, you can put $10 on every state above, plus Donald to win and get better than even odds on your bet. Hell you'd only have to hit like 35-40% of your bets to break better than even.
 
MHBDemon said:
How do anti-capitalist movements paint climate change as an American problem? I think your post and line of thinking lacks an understanding of the role capitalism has played in making America the wealthiest country and wreaked havoc on countries like Bolivia. I don’t know that it’s a fair question to ask Bolivia to choose between raising living standards and eco friendly policies when we are literally orchestrating coups.
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Because an anti-capitalist "solution" is a local one. It might curb our own emissions, but unless you are talking about conquering the rest of the world first, we don't get to just order them to play along too. And so it will make very little difference overall. Hell the whole developed world shut down and we emissions are only down like 17%. But if we can help develop and provide early subisities/support for clean tech/transport/agriculture/energy/industry (and I'd argue again, we are rich as hell, with huge potential research apparatus, thus uniquely well suited to make this happen), it doesn't just clean up our emissions, we can clean the world.

As to the second half of your post, I'm just confused. I'm talking about pre-coup Bolivia under Morales when they were an economically successful socialist country. They nationalized the oil and gas companies, among other things, and generally did a great job raising living standards for the people. The problem was their emissions shot through the roof. The whole capitalism is killing the planet thing is just bullshit.
 
I don’t know why anti-capitalist solutions have to be local.
 
Capitalism is killing the planet if only because it prioritizes productivity, consumption, and accumulating wealth over the health of the planet.

If you can think of way to do all three and maintain a healthy planet, I’m all ears.
 
If you're able to hack twitter and access accounts of people like Obama and Biden, then it's likely a state actor. Russia, China, North Korea and Iran are the most likely suspects.
 
It is a common hack. Could certainly be a state actor but I’m not sure that just because Biden was hit this is Russia. Apple, Bezos, a bunch of crypto sites, etc were hit here. Seems like a pretty basic and common vulnerability for Twitter’s shit security.
 
I'm interested in where we are "literally orchestrating coups," and I'm a Biden voter.
 
centerdeac said:
I'm interested in where we are "literally orchestrating coups," and I'm a Biden voter.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

And those are just the ones we acknowledge. The dark underbelly of U.S. foreign policy of the last 75-150 years has been the part we have played in dozens of anti-democratic regime changes in Latin America, with the goal of destroying "socialism" and protecting U.S. corporate interests. The Cold War was a great excuse to spend billions of U.S. taxpayers dollars on violent corporate welfare.
 
I mean the Venezuela coup attempt was front page headlines, it was just orchestrated by the laziest and dumbest people imaginable this time around.
 
BillBrasky said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

And those are just the ones we acknowledge. The dark underbelly of U.S. foreign policy of the last 75-150 years has been the part we have played in dozens of anti-democratic regime changes in Latin America, with the goal of destroying "socialism" and protecting U.S. corporate interests. The Cold War was a great excuse to spend billions of U.S. taxpayers dollars on violent corporate welfare.
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Indeed. For some ugly reading about US foreign policy in Latin America, try reading about the secret, and successful, US-instigated (CIA) coup in Guatemala in 1954 under the Eisenhower administration (a POTUS that I generally have a high opinion of.) When Jacobo Arbenz was elected President of Guatemala and promised reforms to improve the life of his people - including taking a harsher line with the American United Fruit Company, which had basically run the country to that point and treated most of its workers terribly, a group of people within the US government (many of whom, like Ike's Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, owned stock in the United Fruit Company) decided that Arbenz was not only a socialist reformer but a potential Soviet ally who had to be eliminated. The CIA found a willing stooge, Castillo Armas, to replace Arbenz, and we used psychological warfare and bombings in the country to topple Arbenz. Armas ruled the country as a dictator until 1957, when he was assassinated. We continued to covertly interfere with the Guatemalan government under the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations, mostly for the benefit of the United Fruit Company, which had plenty of powerful friends in both parties in Washington. Definitely not one of our finer moments.
 
Would also recommend All the Shah's Men re: the British and American co-led coup in Iran, one of the more destabilizing events in the region's unstable history.
 
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