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2023-2024 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

We can talk about conference road wins, the GT loss, or whatever, but the truth is Wake needed to be 15-5 in the ACC to be firmly in the field entering the ACCT. Wake entered conference season with little margin for error due to playing and winning few games against major conference opponents. The powers that be have to schedule better opponents home/home, MTEs, neutral site, whatever. Do that and they can win 11 or 12 games in conference and flame out in the ACCT and still make the tournament.
 
BigDeacEnergy said:
Seems the GT loss is the one that really killed us
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If the GT loss is the main reason for not making the tourney, again, the team has no one to blame but themselves. However, it is hard to accept that the season came down to the no call on the travel by the GT player with 3.8 secs left in the game or the simple bad luck on the jump ball call on the same play with the possession arrow going to GT.
 
Sure, beat Utah, lose to Houston, and beat St John’s. Then you enter conference play with wins over Utah, ST John’s, & Florida. That would established them as a team that was in and had to play themselves out (like Clemson). Instead they entered ACC as a team out that needed to play themselves in and weren’t able to win enough.
 
JOJESMA said:
If the GT loss is the main reason for not making the tourney, again, the team has no one to blame but themselves. However, it is hard to accept that the season came down to the no call on the travel by the GT player with 3.8 secs left in the game or the simple bad luck on the jump ball call on the same play with the possession arrow going to GT.
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When comparing our resume and Virginia’s, the Q3 loss is the biggest difference.
 
I don't know if Utah, St. John's, Florida would have been enough to "lock" in a spot, but it would be closer.
 
ChrisL68 said:
So you want fans of a team not to act like fans of a team?
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Find a way to be a fan that doesn’t require misplacing your confidence in the teams NET ranking.
The NET has only existed for a few years, so very obviously there’s far too small a sample size to quote NET rankings as prognostic of tournament selection.
 
BigDeacEnergy said:
When comparing our resume and Virginia’s, the Q3 loss is the biggest difference.
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But Virginia had been in considered in the field for months and Wake hadn't. That matters. We can't pretend like the committee just meets on Saturday and looks at everything for the first time. This process starts at least in January and it's easier to stay in the field than to sneak in.
 
PhDeac said:
But Virginia had been in considered in the field for months and Wake hadn't. That matters. We can't pretend like the committee just meets on Saturday and looks at everything for the first time. This process starts at least in January and it's easier to stay in the field than to sneak in.
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There was somehow the narrative of “Clemson is safely in” for weeks and weeks while they were simultaneously falling apart IRL. Did that narrative come just from metrics which the talking heads parroted and the committee heard it?
 
JOJESMA said:
If the GT loss is the main reason for not making the tourney, again, the team has no one to blame but themselves. However, it is hard to accept that the season came down to the no call on the travel by the GT player with 3.8 secs left in the game or the simple bad luck on the jump ball call on the same play with the possession arrow going to GT.
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We were obviously further than one win away from a bid, because we weren’t even in the “next four out” - this feels like a GD replay of 2022 when so many of us were sure we were on the bubble when the selection ranks showed we weren’t even close.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
We were obviously further than one win away from a bid, because we weren’t even in the “next four out” - this feels like a GD replay of 2022 when so many of us were sure we were on the bubble when the selection ranks showed we weren’t even close.
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I feel like this year we kinda knew after our slide it was over but there was a glimmer of hope. 2022 was a bit more of a surprise.
 
If next February we are worried about a lack of opportunities for meaningful wins then there is a major fucking problem. Maybe there won’t be such a condescending backlash to the concept of mid conference “must wins” when SB posters realize that you can’t just wait to put together a tournament resume in the last month of the season - you have to build
it all year.
 
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