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2024 Presidential Primaries and Election

You are right in two of your classifications but the first. I don't believe for a second the majority of Pubs are any longer Donald Dump supporters, "by far".

Why? I know a lot of Republicans and there’s maybe one (who is a district attorney whose job depends on being a Republican in this district) that is not a MAGA zombie.
 
You are right in two of your classifications but the first. I don't believe for a second the majority of Pubs are any longer Donald Dump supporters, "by far".
your state has two people running for the GOP nom but pretty much their whole delegation in DC has endorsed Trump, minus, of course, the one guy running
 
I, for one, am registered in California as a republican and have just been too lazy to change. Can’t remember the last time I voted republican in a national or statewide race.

I will say that where I live in Sonoma County that even the local “conservative republicans” would be run out of town in South Carolina (where I moved from) for being a “libtard”
 
You are right in two of your classifications but the first. I don't believe for a second the majority of Pubs are any longer Donald Dump supporters, "by far".
With all due respect, this perspective is delusional.
 
The loudest MAGA shitheads are still ride or die, and so are the politicians riding that wave of fascism, but what you aren’t seeing or hearing about on the news are all the fringe disaffected people that Trump activated into voting in 2016 who have dropped back out of political participation.
 
The loudest MAGA shitheads are still ride or die, and so are the politicians riding that wave of fascism, but what you aren’t seeing or hearing about on the news are all the fringe disaffected people that Trump activated into voting in 2016 who have dropped back out of political participation.
That makes sense. It's been 8 years. Presumably, they've voted for Trump and his lackeys and nothing has gotten better. But it's going to be a very high profile election. Why do you think they'll head back to the sidelines?
 
Many/most will vote republican no matter what and claim to be holding their nose. They can't possibly vote for a socialist liberal. We know plenty of our usual here did.
 
We can just hope those that are disillusioned and don't vote are enough to keep the Congressional/Senate/local votes. Unfortunately, the more likely situation is they will vote in those elections for people with the same beliefs as trump because they like them if not the bluster and disrespectfulness.
 
With all due respect, this perspective is delusional.
Possibly, or the polls that give Trump such an early advantage are simply wrong and not representative of the majority of moderate, anti Biden voters.
The Press so want another Trump-Biden "showdown". I don't think it's going to happen.
 
Anti-Biden voters are living in a ronnie reagan induced long term fantasy land and can't even make an actual cogent argument about policies they disagree with. It's just "can't ever vote Democrat because they are socialist."
 
Possibly, or the polls that give Trump such an early advantage are simply wrong and not representative of the majority of moderate, anti Biden voters.
The Press so want another Trump-Biden "showdown". I don't think it's going to happen.

For my own education, how could aggregate of primary polls with Trump +50% be simply wrong and not represent the people being polled? Really would like to know. I am not trying to argue but would love to know if there is something I don't.

Are anti-Biden voters saying yes to Trump in the poll then in reality they don't vote for Trump? Are the polls not getting the actual representation of primary voters? Are the press intentionally (one could argue fraudulently) mispresenting the data? I am open to the polls being wrong, I just want to know more than wishful thinking.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2024-presidential-primary-trump-v-trump-fatigue-poll-2023-05-01/

How do you think the 27% will be split? Can we be honest and just call the primary for Trump?

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Primary shmimary, the moment he's the candidate republicans will toe the line
 
Speaking of us apparently being an insane people…

But a striking new poll challenged that case in a way that had much of the capital buzzing the last couple of days. Taken at face value, the poll showed Mr. Biden trailing Mr. Trump by six percentage points in a theoretical rematch, raising the question of whether the president is as well positioned as he maintains.

No single poll means all that much, especially so early in an election cycle, and the president’s strategists as well as some independent analysts questioned its methodology. But even if it is an outlier, other recent surveys have indicated that the race is effectively tied, with either Mr. Biden or Mr. Trump holding narrow leads within the margin of error. Taken together, they suggest that the president opens the 2024 campaign facing enormous challenges with no guarantee of victory over Mr. Trump.

The data has left many Democrats feeling anywhere from queasy to alarmed. Mr. Biden’s case for being the pair of safe hands at a volatile moment is undermined in their view if a president who passed major legislation and presides over the lowest unemployment in generations cannot outperform a twice-impeached challenger who instigated an insurrection, has been indicted on multiple felonies, is on civil trial accused of rape and faces more potential criminal charges in the months to come.
 
But I mean there's at least a chance Trump is indicted/found guilty of something that would torpedo his shot at being President again right?
 
Head to head in 24 is a little different than a theoretical rematch when most dems would prefer someone else be their nominee.
 
Nationwide polling is virtually meaningless, didn't we learn in 2016 that only polling broken down by state matters.
 
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